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   pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 03:17:30 JST pistolero

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   @Ashurbanipal @fedilist Started off as blogging software, but is basically the Rails of PHP: in theory, people might write PHP programs that do not sit on top of Wordpress, but this is only theoretical.
   
   > gay nerd from washington
   
   A limey and a Texan, it looks like:
   
   > Mike Little (born 12 May 1962) is an English web developer and writer.
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   Most people doing PHP are not the real nerds. Here is a chart, it should help.
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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:35 JST John Fediverse

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     @p @Ashurbanipal @fedilist @istvan Be thankful. I think the closest my dad got to child abuse was when I picked up the phone mid-upload on an old green screen terminal he had to use for work.
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     dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:38 JST dobó istván

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     @p @Ashurbanipal @fedilist Shell can be GUI or CLI so it isn't terribly descriptive.

     Terminal is however you interact with the computer. I'm so old I have used a hard copy terminal.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:38 JST pistolero

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     @istvan @Ashurbanipal @fedilist One invokes programs in a (proper) shell, rather than commands. I think most people don't describe a GUI as a "graphical shell" nowadays.
     
     It's a lot like if someone describes a Unix workstation as a "PC": this is a Mac user, everything that is not a Macintosh is a "PC", a Macintosh is not a "PC" because they don't mean "personal computer" like everyone else, they mean "IBM-PC-compatible", despite IBM having been out of that game for decades and Macintoshes having spent a long time on exactly the same hardware as the Windows users.
     
     > I'm so old I have used a hard copy terminal.
     
     Even the glass titty is before my time.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:40 JST pistolero

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     @istvan @Ashurbanipal @fedilist I'm sure there are facilities for making PHP do various and sundry; I once saw an interface to SDL and was appalled.
     
     > php-cli
     
     You can more or less determine which school of computing someone follows based on their use of one of the terms "command-line", "terminal", or "shell".
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     dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:41 JST dobó istván

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     @p @Ashurbanipal @fedilist I've found it significantly quicker to write in PHP than Perl.

     It works fine. There is a php-cli interpreter for this purpose that just executed the script and doesn't fill the output with webshit.

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     dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:43 JST dobó istván

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     @p @Ashurbanipal @fedilist > in theory, people might write PHP programs that do not sit on top of Wordpress, but this is only theoretical.

     I write a lot of CLI stuff in PHP because I don’t want to waste time finding what Python shit I need to install.

     I quite like PHP on the command line.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 06:22:43 JST pistolero

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     @istvan @Ashurbanipal @fedilist You might have an easier time with awk, Ruby, Perl, or any of the dozen or so languages created for this purpose, but it's your time, not mine.