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   Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:28:55 JST Pleroma-tan
   how the fuck do games using raylib handle multiplayer stuff anyways like say you have 2 players to manage at once, you are bound to run into race condition problems when using normal multithreading libraries, and i cant think off the top of my head how i would solve that stuff
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:31:05 JST Pleroma-tan

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     like you could just do it in the worst way possible and just call recv while you are in the middle of operations before redrawing the window but it would obviously cause major lag as reading from socket takes a little while
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:38:34 JST Pleroma-tan

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     got me thinking a bit, i recall an asynchronous http library in c would make you call a function over and over again to get progress of if connection has succeeded or not
     
     could set up a timeout for reading from socket, then maybe have a mutex that counts the attempted recvs made and if its equal to a certain number assume connection has died?
     
     idk
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:44:21 JST August

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     I think networked multiplayer games just ignore race conditions and process inputs when it's convenient.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:44:57 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @BOB is that like an industry standard
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:46:25 JST Pleroma-tan

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     you wouldn't need a mutex actually just a normal variable
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:47:09 JST Pleroma-tan

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     idk why mutex came up in my head
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:48:40 JST Pleroma-tan

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     the timeout would have to be super small tho
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:54:05 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @BOB this is mostly just theoretical so i can get settled into raylib a bit i spose, but p2p preferably [partially considering just writing an entire dedicated server for some projects]
     
     local
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 14:54:06 JST August

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     What are you trying to accomplish? P2p or server/client? Network or local?
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:01:48 JST August

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     Idk about raylib, I mostly use sdl. I wouldn't think too much about it. I'd just read the inputs in my tick function like normal.
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:03:31 JST August

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     @kirby Deleted my last post cuz I misread your response lol. Look up rollback. It's how networked games deal with lag.
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:06:33 JST August

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     @kirby
     A great resource for me was Quake's source code. It's server client but a lot of the theory is the same
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:09:56 JST August

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     @kirby
     On top of dealing with lag you also have to deal with floating point operations being non-reproducable across a network (unless all nodes are the exact same hardware)
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:10:13 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @BOB oh that sounds terrible
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     August (bob@versalife.business)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 15:12:39 JST August

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     Ya. It means your game state has to be all integers or your nodes need to sync their states periodically. The latter solution is probably not possible in p2p unless you have very little state
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