@evan have they fixed their delete situation or would this be a CSAM nightmare?
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Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: (janl@narrativ.es)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:18:22 JST Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: -
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Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:18:20 JST Evan Prodromou @janl So, could you break down why you think it would be a nightmare?
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Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:43:47 JST Evan Prodromou @thisismissem @janl OK, so, this is how I understand IPFS; happy to be corrected.
Data uploaded to a local node is not automatically pushed to any other nodes. Those other nodes have to request the data (say, because they're following a link).
If "bad" data was uploaded to someone else's node, and nobody on my node requested it, it's not going to end up on my node.
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Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:43:49 JST Emelia 👸🏻 @evan @janl if you're replicating content, then you're consequently distributing CSAM. If the media stays alive forever, then you're possibly perpetuating harm to victims of not just CSAM/CSE but also NCII and other horrible content.
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Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:47:04 JST Evan Prodromou @thisismissem @janl So, there are two other cases:
- Someone uploaded bad data to a remote node, and someone on my node requested it (say, by following a link). Now it's cached in my node. I can delete it from my node.
- Someone on my node uploaded bad data to my node, and people on remote nodes requested it, pulling it to their nodes. I can delete it from my node, but not from remote nodes.
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Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-2024 08:48:36 JST Evan Prodromou @thisismissem @janl This might be where AP comes in; we send delete notifications, so remote servers could delete their cached versions.
It sounds like it's not too different to the way we do things today.
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