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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 14:53:27 JST Aral Balkan

   “In one of those moments that you can’t believe is not satire, Antony Blinken met with Arab-American leaders and warned them that if Palestine got statehood, the US would defund the United Nations and potentially the World Food Program, plunging the developing world into starvation. It wasn’t enough for these fascists to starve innocents in Palestine, they’re now threatening to do it across the world. They would really rather kill millions more than stop doing genocide.”

   https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/blinken-suggests-the-world-food-program

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:38:45 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Arnel Šarić Sharan :verified:

     @sharan I’m sorry, please correct me if I’m missing something, but the article cites a primary source who was at the meeting. This is the source: https://x.com/halalflow/status/1792944530389393422

     Is the problem that the person is Arab-American and therefore somehow inherently untrustworthy?

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     Arnel Šarić Sharan :verified: (sharan@metalhead.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:38:46 JST Arnel Šarić Sharan :verified:

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     @aral , I respect your efforts to help the cause, but by sharing stuff like this, you don't.

     We should all be careful with "news" like this. If a piece of news doesn't cite a source, there's no other viable source, and it dives heavily into any bias, huge chances are that it's fake.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:39:48 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Adachi Kaori
     • Miro Collas

     @Miro_Collas @adachika192 @palestine Confirmation from a white person? Is Bilal inherently untrustworthy because he is an Arab-American? I’m having real trouble understanding this.

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     Miro Collas (miro_collas@masto.ai)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:39:49 JST Miro Collas

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     • Adachi Kaori

     @adachika192
     Right, exactly. Confirmation would be needed

     @aral @palestine

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     Miro Collas (miro_collas@masto.ai)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:39:50 JST Miro Collas

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     @aral Hum, that's not *quite* what is reported in that article. What it reports, via very indirect sources, is that (a) the US might defund the UN, and (b) that the *UN* might cut the food program.

     However, I am wary of the sources.

     @palestine

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     Adachi Kaori (adachika192@hcommons.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 17:39:50 JST Adachi Kaori

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     • Miro Collas

     @Miro_Collas @aral @palestine

     cf. https://youtu.be/u_FnTyAl3po?si=F7ZQIr7m9uTHpdCx

     Seems like the article stands principally on what Bilal Hammoud told in this broadcast.
     🖖

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 18:30:41 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Adachi Kaori
     • Miro Collas

     @Miro_Collas @adachika192 @palestine I didn’t realise it was a card. My question is what makes an Arab-American who was in the actual meeting sharing his recollection of his first-hand experience at the meeting an untrustworthy primary source. I don’t think I’ve gotten an answer to that question.

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     Miro Collas (miro_collas@masto.ai)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 18:30:42 JST Miro Collas

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     • Adachi Kaori

     @aral
     Playing the racism card? That's disappointing. Especially because you have no idea whatsoever what race I am, you made an assumption. Which could be seen as racist too, perhaps.

     Confirmation from a different source. it is not at all unusual to wish to see news confirmed from other sources.

     @adachika192 @palestine

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 23-May-2024 03:08:48 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Adachi Kaori
     • Miro Collas

     @Miro_Collas @adachika192 @palestine 👋

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     Miro Collas (miro_collas@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 23-May-2024 03:08:49 JST Miro Collas

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     • Adachi Kaori

     @aral
     His ethnicity is irrelevant - why did you introduce it? So yes, you're playing the racism card.

     Also, I never said he was untrustworthy.

     So, there is no question to answer, and this conversation is over.

     @adachika192 @palestine