Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:20:46 JST arcanicanis
   When your ISP can't even figure out networking:
   ( https://support.metronetbusiness.com/hc/en-us/articles/4459424006167-Do-IPv6-and-IPv4-addresses-look-different- )
   • Embed this notice
     arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:43:40 JST arcanicanis

     in reply to

     • ink
     232 = ~4,294,967,296?
     2123 = ~340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456?
     3FFFE:F200:0234:AB00:0123:4567"8901:ABCD?
     3FFFE:F200:0234::/48?
     
     Try again, or explain what they did wrong with the latter two.
   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:43:41 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social this sounds right tho
     
     is the problem that they're not counting private addresses or something

   • Embed this notice
     arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:52:27 JST arcanicanis

     in reply to

     • ink
     Yes, and this is for business-class fiber internet. But hey, stop looking at those mistakes, you don't really "NEED" IPv6 for now, "we'll just get there eventually":
     https://support.metronetbusiness.com/hc/en-us/articles/4447533787031-What-is-IPv6-and-do-I-need-it-
   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:52:31 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social wait. you're right. that doesn't even mean anything lmao

   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 10:52:31 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social OH GOD WHAT IS THAT IPV6 ADDRESS
     
     WHY IS THERE A QUOTATION MARK
     
     WHY DOES IT START WITH FIVE DIGITS

   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 11:09:35 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social lmao
     
     i'll keep that in mind thanks
     
     (if we had IPv6 i would not need a VPS to feel complete in life. but that's another topic)

   • Embed this notice
     arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 11:09:35 JST arcanicanis

     in reply to

     • ink
     Yea, this same ISP just rolled out CGNAT without forewarning one day as I tried to make sense of why my servers (that I have colo'ed at a location with this internet service) became unreachable, yet, was still "online". I saw the router being assigned an IP address in the 100.64.0.0/10 address space, which was clear enough evidence that they stuffed everything behind CGNAT. They botched it so bad, that this is apparently what a speed test came back with (image attached).
     I've moved my stuff to a different network. Yet, in the chaos of this mess, anything I had on Tor stayed online without any issue, even in moving networks (since of course an onion address isn't dependent on network location). It's just getting stupid with trying to host some things on the regular internet at this point.
     (Also to be clear, the "you don't need IPv6" was sarcastic)
   • Embed this notice
     arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 11:43:33 JST arcanicanis

     in reply to

     • ink
     (I was just making sure)
     But yes, a lot of people that are expected to know networking are the ones painting everyone into this corner thinking that CGNAT will never happen (thus never bother to learn IPv6), when instead that's been the case with internet service options I've had in 4 out of 5 locations now in the past 4 years. Even a relative on vDSL2 internet out in the country has a static IP and native IPv6, meanwhile I don't, and I'm still trying to pester my ISP to just let me help them out.
     
     At least one way to sidestep some of this crap is Wireguard tunnels and a VPS, to still host things on your own hardware, even behind CGNAT, and still be publicly reachable (by proxy of the VPS) without any special config expected out of the users.
   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 11:43:34 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social I was playing along with your sarcasm :D
     
     Anyways, you don't have the slighest on how long it took me to realize I was under a CGNAT. SJW asked me if i was in one and I was like "I didn't know those but i guess not 'cause the address isn't private???"
     
     and then i remembered the 172 subnet was indeed private
     
     fuck networking. i want the meshnet revolution NOW

   • Embed this notice
     ink (ink8@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-2022 12:06:29 JST ink

     in reply to

     @arcanicanis@were.social at least setting up the vps is fun

     arcanicanis likes this.