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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 07:33:31 JST Alex Gleason
This is actually an L for the Fediverse. It benefits us when they censor people. But... we'll see. I think they're too big to be functional. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 07:36:43 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
Fact is, a for-profit company like Twitter (even if private) needs to at least pretend to monetize. Big corporations are never going to pay for ads displayed next to "racist" or "sexist" content, so they have to censor in order to appease the advertisers (their actual customers).
Since nobody is making any money off Fediverse, the incentives are different. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 07:36:53 JST Alex Gleason
This ? -
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Sherri_Ingrey (sherri_ingrey@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 07:38:43 JST Sherri_Ingrey
@caekislove @alex well you never trust a billionaire especially one with a family like his. He says he doesn't care about profit, and frankly he can afford not to. I don't believe him but that's what he said. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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darniil (darniil@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:34 JST darniil
But Gab defederated itself from everyone, didn't it? Which means you're blocked from nearly all conversations, right? Alex Gleason likes this. -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:35 JST King Henry VIII
Federation woes are another reason I used to keep a presence on Gab. It’s just simpler to not be blocked from 50% of every conversation. -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:36 JST King Henry VIII
No, it still has way more people than we do. -
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heyarnold (heyarnold@outpoa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:36 JST heyarnold
Well if the comedy is coming back on twitter... Then it'll be a big L for the fediverse because the fediverse works more like this because instances get offended and defederate. It is not possible for a funny thing to trend on a larger scale. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:37 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
Gab also has like 50 actual active users. -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:03:38 JST King Henry VIII
Gab has been cash flow positive for 2 years now and they successfully run ads. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:09:15 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
There's basically the mastodon dot social fediverse and the blocked by mastodon social fediverse. Honestly, I don't think that anything they have to say I'd find funny and/or vice versa. Not being forced to go to the same swimming pool seems more like a feature than a bug, to be honest.
Is anyone gonna become a fediverse millionaire influencer? Probably not. Again, I don't see this as a bug. I'm not even sure it's a natural phenomenon on the big sites, since "popular" accounts also coincidentally are the ones the algorithm puts in everybody's feed, no matter what. -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:09:15 JST King Henry VIII
That’s not true anymore. “Our side” blocks people all the time. I can’t talk to Poast, FSE, Spinster, or a variety of other sites because their admins have retarded grudges against me. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:09:15 JST Alex Gleason
I just reactivated you on Spinster, try not to get blocked again. Also, you hop accounts every 2 weeks so it hardly matters. ? -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:13:37 JST King Henry VIII
I don’t even know what I did. I’ve had this account for months btw -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:13:37 JST Alex Gleason
All it takes is one report saying "misogynist". Basically be a gentleman when @ing a Spinster user. -
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Sherri_Ingrey (sherri_ingrey@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:19:56 JST Sherri_Ingrey
@caekislove @alex @GoodPerson did I miss something? Was that the Mastadon comment? -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:19:56 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
I was responding to a comment that Gab has "way more people" than the Fediverse. Alex Gleason repeated this. -
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@polarisera reposted your post (polarisera@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:19:56 JST @polarisera reposted your post
@caekislove @alex @GoodPerson @Sherri_Ingrey If only there were some standard by which twitter, parler, gab, truthsocial could federate around so that users could do something, I don't know what to a call it. Maybe federating might work as a word. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:19:57 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
I don't believe that for a second. The place is a wasteland outside of the threads of a few e-celebs. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:36 JST Alex Gleason
They're also running absolutely monster servers with ssds, million CPU cores and ram, etc -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:37 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
No really where i was going with it. I think graf says it costs him around 4k? Poast has a lot of users. But a lot of this can be done relatively cheaply. -
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heyarnold (heyarnold@outpoa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:37 JST heyarnold
Poast has a lot of operation costs because they are running alot more than the pleroma software.
Matrix server, poast streaming service, some nitter thing, some youtube thing and so on. Idk. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:38 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
I was just listening to a podcast from a website that has literally thousands of hours of episodes available to listen to as well as books/papers to read etc, and he saif in the one i was listening to that his costs are 1k a month.
Shing says 8k? ? -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:38 JST King Henry VIII
Yes, Rob Colbert is a retard no matter how you slice the cake. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:39 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
I think the fact that one of the biggest fediverse instances is basically being bankrolled by some guy out of his own pocket is a tribute to how lightweight and efficient the pleroma software is. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:24:40 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
Poast is rolling in that Canadian Intelligence money ? -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:26:01 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
I also appreciate that being such a huge instance, graf has operational security concerns that most instance operators don't need to consider. It's pretty unlikely that someone from Vice or the Washington Post will log onto Gleasonator and try to datamine the users in order to dox them and ruin their lives, but that's been attempted on Poast on multiple occasions that I can remember. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:26:03 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️
Even before graf purged me politely asked me to leave I was on the verge of jumping ship because every thread was sprinkled with “this poast is not available” because at some point one of graf’s (too many) jannies got buttmad at some instance owner and defederated them.
Seems like getting on Poast long enough to get your account discovered and then migrating to a more “normal” instance is becoming a standard right of passage, these days.
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heyarnold (heyarnold@outpoa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:26:03 JST heyarnold
Oh boy that sucks. I'm trying to lead by example and run an instance that doesn't do stupid things like that. Think it is doing well. When mods get a taste of power... They become corrupted... You only should moderate when you have no other choice but to... But people people can't help themselves and get addicted and lost... Abusing that power. -
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?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:26:04 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??
@caekislove @alex @heyarnold @GoodPerson @Sherri_Ingrey poast abusing the block function is becoming a mess though. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:27:57 JST Alex Gleason
It should cost more than that if you factor in human labor. Fedi has to make money and it's acceptable to ask for that much, lowballing it even. -
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King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Oct-2022 08:27:58 JST King Henry VIII
There’s still no way it’s $4K. Graf has to be overkilling it.
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