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   Tristan Harward (trisweb@m.trisweb.com)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:17:22 JST Tristan Harward

   Byeeeee stackoverflow

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     Tristan Harward (trisweb@m.trisweb.com)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:17:20 JST Tristan Harward

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     This is what you get when you try to delete your content from #StackOverflow: they treat you like a criminal defacing their site, rather than as a human being with privacy rights.

     Will be saving this conversation and sharing publicly. Your move, Stack Overflow…

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     Tristan Harward (trisweb@m.trisweb.com)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:17:21 JST Tristan Harward

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     lol, going to need to try a different method

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     iAmAnEngarneer (engarneering@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:23:10 JST iAmAnEngarneer

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     @trisweb so any use by partners like openai makes all derivative works licensed under creative commons then? So they must provide attribution?
     https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
     I'd like to see open ai in compliance then please.

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     Tristan Harward (trisweb@m.trisweb.com)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:23:11 JST Tristan Harward

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     Follow up: it is not within my rights to remove my content, apparently. Upon submitting it conveniently becomes Creative Commons licensed. Huh.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:23:16 JST clacke

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     • iAmAnEngarneer

     @engarneering @trisweb If it's not legally a derivative, it's a free-for-all and there is nothing you can do with licensing.

     The currently unchallenged copyright and language model legal theory is that if you just scrape enough material and mix it up enough, any given fraction of the input won't have a significant copyright claim on the output.

     Changing that requires legal and/or political action.

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     Tristan Harward (trisweb@m.trisweb.com)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:34:35 JST Tristan Harward

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     • iAmAnEngarneer

     @clacke @engarneering yeah that makes sense, I figured I have no recourse it’s just upsetting to lose control over something you’ve written in general.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 20:34:39 JST clacke

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     • iAmAnEngarneer
     @trisweb @engarneering For sure.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 21:48:11 JST clacke

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     • Mr. Completely

     @mrcompletely @trisweb No scraping required, they offer full downloads.

     archive.org/details/stackexcha… is updated every month, history is not kept.

     meta.stackexchange.com/a/22492… lists torrents for historical data, which may or may not have seeds.

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     Mr. Completely (mrcompletely@heads.social)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 21:48:13 JST Mr. Completely

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     @trisweb so if all that material is CC licensed does that mean it would at least be legal to scrape the site and create an open source fork?

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     Jonathan Hartley (tartley@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 21:48:27 JST Jonathan Hartley

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     • Mr. Completely

     @mrcompletely @trisweb this. There exist non-commercial sites that have more or less duplicated the functionality of SO, but suffer from a lack of content and audience. They have discussed mass import of questions in the past, but (rightly) judged it to be a big job, given their meagre resources.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 21:48:28 JST clacke

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     StackOverflow posts.xml alone is 97 GiB, not very suitable for scraping. 😅

     ia804700.us.archive.org/view_a…