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   Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee: (brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net)'s status on Thursday, 09-May-2024 04:50:10 JST Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan either "very" or "somewhat" depending on what you mean by "equality"

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-May-2024 04:50:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @brooke what do you think it means?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-May-2024 05:24:34 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @brooke You are doing a terrible job of dissuading me from posting vague, poorly-defined questions. Thank you so much for this! 🙏🏼

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan others might say that "equality" is about equality of access to resources: that everyone has equal rights to live and thrive and allowing them to starve on the streets is not part of "equality"

     others say that "equality" is "everyone has the equal opportunity to hopefully beg for a job so they can buy food and pay rent"

     the first might be 'somewhat important', though i prefer 'equity' as a term maybe?

     the latter, again, is evil so "important" or "not important" is not a useful answer

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan some folks think "equality" means you should ignore peoples' circumstances and judge them based on very narrow criteria, ignoring wider truths around them. others believe that "equality" requires paying attention to those larger truths.

     which one is "equality"? if the former, then i'm not sure how to answer on this scale, it's not that it's "important" or "not important", but rather that it's "evil".

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan if the latter, then i'd say it's very important.

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan i know you prefer not to clarify what your questions mean and just like the debate and numbers, but i find it difficult to answer in a clear way when the questions are unclear. so i just pick one working response semi-randomly figuring that's good enough, and put my notes in the reply. :)

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan you might mean "equality" in terms of equal access to needs and resources, something that doesn't exist but some folks strive for at least in part. or "equality before the law", the idea that everyone should be judged fairly in legal proceedings. but people interpret that sort of thing differently, too, with disagreement about whether non-equal circumstances are included in judging

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan i prefer to avoid the term because it's unclear

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan it occurs to me this may be an autism spectrum thing. i find it very distressing to be asked to answer an unclear question and seek clarification, but you explicitly choose not to clarify the questions, which i find bewildering and try to compensate for by listing a bunch of possibilities you will neither confirm nor deny. :)

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-May-2024 21:03:58 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @brooke I get that and I realize it's tough for people.