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   Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:05:37 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

   Guess where I am. https://netpreserve.org/ga2024/

   #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:05:34 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     🇳🇱 🇨🇭

     #answers #WebLegalDeposit #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:05:36 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Poster sessi:on at #WAC. I learn that there are two countries in Europe *without* a legal deposit of the Web. I let you guess their names.

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     Erwan 🚄 (r1rail@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:06:18 JST Erwan 🚄

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     @bortzmeyer BFM (pas la télé)

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:07:03 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @bortzmeyer Closed Garden :D
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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:12:33 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Facebook closed its API long ago, pretending it was because of Cambridge Analytica (but the real reason was commecial), shutting down many research projects on social media.

     #WAC #APIcalypse

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:12:34 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     • Florent Moncomble

     Now, panel at #WAC "Archiving Social Media In An Age of APIcalypse" (Twitter closed its API).

     [Wondering how to archive the fediverse.]

     @f_moncomble

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:12:35 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Poster session at #WAC: I loved the "(most|least) cool club", a club of people managing Web crawlers and sharing (unfortunately with JIra and Confluence) regexps of things to exclude from the crawl (loop traps and things like that).

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:53:53 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     TikTok has an API but its use requires that all research papers where it was used have to be pre-approved by TikTok!

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:53:54 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Jérôme Thièvre (INA) is the first to mention Bluesky (which apparently has a working API but little content).

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 17:53:56 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Several speakers in the panel do not follow the title: they talk about what they did *before*, when API use was possible.
     Anat Ben-David, on the contrary, explains what could be done in the future. APIs were not so good, after all (for instance, you are never sure of what they hide).

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 19:04:27 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Argh, Mastodon butchers the PWID :-(

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 19:04:28 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Now, back to identifiers, at #WAC "The Potentials and Challenges for Researchers and Web Archives Using the Persistent Web IDentifier (PWID)" (The speakers even have T-shirts branded "PWID".)

     (The english-speaking Wikipedia page on PWID is not the expected one.)

     An example of PWID:
     urn:pwid:archive.org:2016-01-22T10:08:23Z:page:https://www.dr.dk

     (from the Internet-Draft)

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 19:04:31 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     In the end, back to traditional Web scraping, and data donations.
     (Medialab SciencesPo currently crawls and scraps #Doctissimo.)

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:23:00 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     If I understand correctly, the goal is to put Internet Archive on IPFS (as WARC files).

     But IPNS (IPFS naming system) has limits. Hence the new type, the IPARO, a list of IPFS names pointing to the various versions of an archived Web page.

     Plus links going directlty to some points in the list (for resiliency, since IPFS does not guarantee persistence.)

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:23:01 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     "Decentralized Web Archiving and Replay via InterPlanetary Archival Record Object (IPARO)" is an attractive title.

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:23:02 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     Now, "bit preservation" (presevving bits for the long term, not taking semantics into account).
     * several copies (and no SPOF)
     * check them

     #WAC

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:23:03 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     The Internet-Draft is expired and there is no plan to revive it. The only specification for #PWID seems to be https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/pwid

     #WAC