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    Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:35:55 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
    Guys, I like BlueSky's protocol more than ActivityPub.
    In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:35:55 JST from shitposter.club permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:35:53 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      It has docs at least. What it doesn't have is users.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:35:53 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:39:56 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • Alex Gleason
      What will you do when it does?
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:39:56 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:39:56 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      If Twitter moves to it, I'll adopt it probably. But if it's just one Bluesky server, it'll probably be like Matrix where it can federate in theory but nobody does.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:39:56 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:41:19 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      I'm not sure who the audience is for Bluesky that isn't already on the Fediverse. This only makes sense if Twitter itself federates.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:41:19 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:44:44 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      The new protocol is kind of exciting. But also really annoying. We already reinvented federation once from GNU Social to ActivityPub. How many times are we gonna get lead around like circus monkeys until we make this thing popular? We have a working solution already.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:44:44 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:47:49 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      It's really a matter of time until federation makes Twitter obsolete. But we didn't do the thing yet. We gave them too much time, so they've recognized it and put their foot in the door.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:47:49 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:48:40 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • NEETzsche
      • King Henry VIII
      The actual advantage is federating with Twitter. Without that, it will be a flop.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:48:40 JST permalink
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      NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:48:41 JST NEETzsche NEETzsche
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      • Alex Gleason
      • King Henry VIII
      @alex But seriously, what is the actual advantage? I'm not sure that slightly tighter definition qualifies, if it's at the expense of flexibility.

      @GoodPerson @Moon
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:48:41 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:50:24 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • NEETzsche
      • King Henry VIII
      If Twitter adopts Bluesky, the whole Fediverse will become obsolete overnight.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:50:24 JST permalink
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      NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:50:25 JST NEETzsche NEETzsche
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      • Alex Gleason
      • King Henry VIII
      @alex lol, fuck it then

      @GoodPerson @Moon
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:50:25 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:53:30 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • NEETzsche
      • Alex Gleason
      Under Elon it probably will.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:53:30 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:53:30 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • NEETzsche
      • King Henry VIII
      I think he'll consider it, but I'm not sure he'll be so brave. I think he wants X to be a centralized point of control.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:53:30 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:54:10 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • кину奇诺
      It's called Email.
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:54:10 JST permalink
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      кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:54:12 JST кину奇诺 кину奇诺
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      • Alex Gleason

      @alex@gleasonator.com I am starting to believe that federative technology will never become mainstream or adopted en mass. First and foremost, people don't "get it". It's simple, but I genuinely think most people either don't care or are otherwise too stupid to comprehend what is being said. Ergo, it's difficult to market.

      Furthermore, even people who do fully understand it don't actually like the reality of a federated universe. They might like the idea of federation, but ultimately they just want a small, tightly-controlled community of like-minded individuals with spoon-fed content and heavy-handed moderation. The people who don't want that are usually of the other extreme: they don't want any moderation whatsoever. And most of those people are societal rejects and constitute a minority of users.

      There are no normal people here.

      As for me? I just want Misskey markdown to fucking work consistently.

      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 00:54:12 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 01:55:05 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      • SSumma

      Would it be possible to simultaneously support both protocols?

      Yes. Before ActivityPub, there was OStatus (from GNU Social). For a while in 2018-ish Mastodon and Pleroma both supported ActivityPub and OStatus.

      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 01:55:05 JST permalink
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      SSumma (ssumma@social.anthro.cc)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 01:55:20 JST SSumma SSumma
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      • Alex Gleason
      • King Henry VIII
      Would it be possible to simultaneously support both protocols?
      In conversation Thursday, 27-Oct-2022 01:55:20 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:40:42 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      Link?
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:40:42 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:40:43 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • Alex Gleason
      Update on this: the first Blue Sky server already has 30K people.
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:40:43 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:46:02 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • King Henry VIII
      I assume you mean this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/jack-dorsey-backed-decentralized-social-network-bluesky-gets-30-000-signups-in-48-hours/ar-AA13cy21

      30K people signed up to the waitlist (including me), because of course they did because Twitter has a huge reach.

      But will those users actually stay? That's the difference between Mastodon and Soapbox. Mastodon has like 4 million dead accounts. Soapbox has active communities that stick around.

      I have no doubt Bluesky will attract millions of people to sign up, but making it stick is harder.
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:46:02 JST permalink

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        Jack Dorsey-Backed Decentralized Social Network Bluesky Gets 30,000 Signups in 48 Hours
        The Web3 social media protocol aims to solve the issues associated with data silos that exist across today’s applications.
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      ? :lazer_c::lazer_o::lazer_c::lazer_h::lazer_i::lazer_s::lazer_e: ? (constantine2nd@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:59:22 JST ? :lazer_c::lazer_o::lazer_c::lazer_h::lazer_i::lazer_s::lazer_e: ? ? :lazer_c::lazer_o::lazer_c::lazer_h::lazer_i::lazer_s::lazer_e: ?
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      • Alex Gleason
      • King Henry VIII
      @alex @GoodPerson @Moon I feel like signups is a dead KPI, active hourly users after 3 months is much more of a useful number - daily users may check in once or twice, but active hourly users build the community
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 00:59:22 JST permalink
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      King Henry VIII (goodperson@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 01:02:18 JST King Henry VIII King Henry VIII
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      • Wang Master 5000
      You’re bound to get more interesting people by sheer probability if it’s bigger. Most ppl don’t know we exist
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 01:02:18 JST permalink
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      Wang Master 5000 (look@muh.wang)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-2022 01:02:19 JST Wang Master 5000 Wang Master 5000
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      • Alex Gleason
      • King Henry VIII
      The main draw of Twitter is that all the mainstream people and organizations are there.

      The main draw of the fediverse is that all the dysfunctional and entertaining people are there.

      What will Bluesky get with that 30k?
      In conversation Friday, 28-Oct-2022 01:02:19 JST permalink

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