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communists will never comprehwns that the best way to improve things is gaining power yourself and using it ethically, not bringing everbody down to your level
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@RyanGosling they can't because they're wagies and don't know how complex systems work
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@RyanGosling the problem is wagies only know about waging, and the business owners are all kinds of involved in Line Go Up. but the business owners actually get shares and options for line go up and they are completely disconnected from waging.
they're somewhat both necessary
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@icedquinn this too tbh. ill give it credit less orthodox forms of socialism can and do work well enough but that level of understanding is rare and thats why theyre all benevolent dictatorships who are more in it as a chosen form after liberation that as a change from an otherwise functional society
like that one dude said, forget his name, but socialism did work to lift the masses out of the worst situations... because they startef from so low the tradeoffs are worth it
"real communism" as in the anarchic collaborative ideology is just absurd though lol