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   Widdershins Smith 🐘 (juglugs@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:36 JST Widdershins Smith 🐘

   Let's do something Putin will hate. Let's rejoin the #EU. And if that means we have to have cheaper food and fuel; the right to live, work, and retire in 31 other countries; higher environmental standards; and peace secured in NI, then that's a price I'm willing to pay...

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:41 JST clacke

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     • Charlie Stross

     @cstross @katzenberger @juglugs And yet the UK as a whole, with the system it has, keeps voting for them.

     It's unfair to pin it on every single citizen, but the country as an abstract entity is what the country does.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:42 JST Charlie Stross

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     @katzenberger @juglugs Please bear in mind that the "drama queen" behaviour is the Conservative Party and the extreme right: ascribing their idiocy to the UK as a whole is like looking at the AfD as if they represent Germany.

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     katzenberger (katzenberger@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:43 JST katzenberger

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     I'd welcome that for an independent #Scotland, any time.

     But let me remind you that most #EU member states remember very well what the #UK drama queen has been coming up with, for half a decade, to rub her low esteem for the #EU and its values under literally everybody's nose, and her desire to get rid of it all.

     I doubt that most EU citizens have forgotten that already, and would welcome a return in the *near* future. Unpopular opinion: I certainly wouldn't, before 2035.

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     Widdershins Smith 🐘 (juglugs@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:46 JST Widdershins Smith 🐘

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     Again, for the hard of thinking, can I just point out that this is a humour post?
     It's not within my gift, nor that of solely the UK, to rejoin the EU.
     As much as I wish that our corrupt, fascist government hadn't rigged the unlawful vote heavily in favour of leaving, and as much as wish the idiot public wouldn't read sodding newspapers controlled by corrupt, fascist oligarchs, they did and a minority of people voted to leave the EU. Certainly not the majority of the UK public.

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     Widdershins Smith 🐘 (juglugs@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:47 JST Widdershins Smith 🐘

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     We told them it'd be a disaster to leave and we were correct. Of course, like conspiracy theorists everywhere, the people who argued so vehemently to leave will never admit they were wrong, and will never apologise. They even lie about their vote to cover it up.
     They are morons. The people who voted to leave who have family and friends who told them it'd be a disaster and still voted to leave are morons and cunts.

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     Widdershins Smith 🐘 (juglugs@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:50 JST Widdershins Smith 🐘

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     However, those of you arguing with my humourous post have clearly missed the satirical point. I pity you.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:51 JST clacke

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     @glevonian @juglugs Oh no, I quite liked having the UK in the EU *because* they were such troublemakers. I was sad to see them go.

     I like the EU project and I'm happy that my birth country joined, but some heavyweights in the union are prone to rushing headlong into a deeper union in ways that sometimes make sense, sometimes don't. It's been valuable to have an opposition party.

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     Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov (glevonian@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:32:53 JST Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov

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     @juglugs Nobody wants you in the EU. Nobody wanted you in the EU before you too, you were always a pain in the ass but it was to difficult to get rid of you. Thank you for leaving — no way you’re getting back in.

     Have a nice day.

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     Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov (glevonian@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:33:32 JST Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov

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     @clacke @juglugs Sorry, it’s axiomatic, aside from a few nut cases, everyone in the world with a brain hates the British. Every week a country somewhere in the world celebrates their independence from British colonization.

     Whenever something bad happens to the British, everyone in the world is a little bit happier.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:33:32 JST clacke

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     • Gulag Gulagovich Gulagov
     @glevonian @juglugs That's all true, and yet they served a purpose. Perhaps even exactly because they couldn't get more unpopular than they were anyway. 😃
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     Graydon (graydon@canada.masto.host)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 11:33:36 JST Graydon

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     @clacke @katzenberger @cstross @juglugs The country had four hundred years of being the Pirate Kingdom. (And to the extent that it is not now the Pirate Kingdom, that was involuntary and is not acknowledged.) The idea of admiring a big pile of loot, however gotten, is axiomatic.

     Axioms never die on their own; you have to replace them, and what you replace them with has to win the inevitable fight with the incumbents.

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     katzenberger (katzenberger@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Sunday, 21-Apr-2024 23:35:15 JST katzenberger

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     @cstross

     Sorry for the belated answer, I just realized from a fragmented post stream that somebody must have replied to my post. Your instance wandering.shop has been hidden by mine.

     While I don't ascribe the #Brexit to all of the #UK, I'm certainly not keen on having the leave-or-remain game repeated every decade, to the detriment of the #EU.

     Thats why I chose 2035 - by then, we should see what a substantial majority of voters thinks about the consequences of the Brexit.

     @juglugs

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