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   jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:40 JST jacqueline 🌟

   pleased to announce that tangara's design has survived yet another round of "jacqueline sees a cool SoC and questions everything"

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:31 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     people kept asking why our boot time was slow so i made it faster

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:33 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     anyway. my point is, tangara is supposed to play music conveniently. the esp32 is good enough to play music conveniently.

     are there cheaper/better/faster/stronger SoCs? i guess. are they 'better' in ways that make them more convenient for playing music? not necessarily!

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:34 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     our esp32 boots fast enough that, when you're not actively using your device, we can just turn the whole thing off. so long as we restore your playlist and such when we boot back up, it's fine. it's not too annoying.

     if your boot time is... what, 10 seconds? 20? then at some point you cross the "this is really annoying" threshold, and you can't do that anymore.

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:36 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     that's like... 2-3 seconds from power on, to our firmware running (showing the splash screen is the first thing we do)

     then a couple more seconds to have an actually usable device (we can improve that second gap i think; haven't looked much into it yet)

     the number one issue with 'more powerful' SoCs people have yelled at me is that most of them are still fucking around in u-boot or whatever by this point.

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:37 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     the main thing you need to know to understand why it’s not a good fit is that i consider this, our current cold boot time, to be fairly slow

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     jacqueline 🌟 (jacqueline@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 15:31:38 JST jacqueline 🌟

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     it was the allwinner v3s this time. pretty cool little thing! but not actually better for our use case i think