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   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:19:42 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   I want to understand better the split between logographic and phonemic writing systems. As far as i know logographicnlanguages in the modern world are all asian and of a similar character. So id imagine they all have the same roots.

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     robryk@qoto.org's status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:59:47 JST robryk

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     @freemo Roots of the language and of the writing system are not necessarily the same. There were multiple instances of significant import of "characters" from ~Chinese into Japanese and I had the impression that at least some of them didn't import much past the characters themselves.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 07:01:37 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @robryk i expect a lot of cross over fornsure. I suspect there was a si gle root of logographic languages that split and remained intertwined despite the splits.

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     robryk@qoto.org's status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 07:02:55 JST robryk

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     My vague recollection is that there was oneish root of ideograms, but the languages evolved before writing in an unrelated way. I don't know how much adoption of writing affected the languages.

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     digastricus (digastricus@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:56:51 JST digastricus

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     @robryk @freemo Indeed, the Japanese imported their writing system from the Chinese although the languages are not related. Also the phonetic symbols (Hiragana and Katakana) are said to be simplified Kanji. The Koreans used the Chinese symbols as well but also simplified them.