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   Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 01:11:16 JST Tim Chambers

   Those worried Threads might scrape the Fedi for AI training data should rest assured that EVERY bit of the public Fedi is ALREADY being scraped and used by all the AI players. Because it is free and public, compared to this:

   "Rates vary by buyer and content type, but Braga said companies are generally willing to pay $1 to $2 per image, $2 to $4 per short-form video and $100 to $300 per hour of longer films. The market rate for text is $0.001 per word."

   https://www.reuters.com/technology/inside-big-techs-underground-race-buy-ai-training-data-2024-04-05/

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 02:01:59 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Ulrike Hahn

     @UlrikeHahn True. But federated content, going out to other servers who do not, still makes it so the public Fediverse content is all up for grabs.

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     Ulrike Hahn (ulrikehahn@fediscience.org)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 02:02:00 JST Ulrike Hahn

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     @tchambers you can block GPTBot in robot.txt

     https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/7/23823046/openai-data-scrape-block-ai

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 02:12:00 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Ulrike Hahn

     @UlrikeHahn Well, I'd think if anyone follows, or boosts, or likes your content, then it is out there... plus there are relays that boost content from many Fediverse server public feeds, etc.

     This doesn't count intentional "scraping" of all public fediverse posts that clearly is also happening. For example even with search indexing marked as "off" on our server, see this:

     https://www.google.com/search?q=%40tchambers%40indieweb.social&sca_esv=e1291adcbee06b02&sca_upv=1&source=hp&ei=ljAQZrn2FJjl5NoPw4cm&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZhA-poo7ekCzmuxLDAqodmpRmX5PMTMs&ved=0ahUKEwi5mYjLyKuFAxWYMlkFHcODCQAQ4dUDCBc&uact=5&oq=%40tchambers%40indieweb.social&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhpAdGNoYW1iZXJzQGluZGlld2ViLnNvY2lhbEiZY1CRAlj4YHAXeACQAQKYAegCoAHTH6oBCDQ2LjMuMC4xuAEDyAEA-AEBmAI2oAK_F6gCCsICEBAAGAMYjwEY5QIY6gIYjAPCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGMcBGNEDwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEY0QPCAgsQLhiABBjHARjRA8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIOEAAYgAQYigUYsQMYgwHCAggQLhiABBixA8ICExAAGIAEGIoFGLEDGIMBGEYY-QHCAhEQLhiABBiKBRixAxiDARjUAsICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAgQQABgDwgIOEC4YgAQYigUYsQMYgwHCAgUQLhiABMICBBAAGB7CAgYQABgeGArCAgYQLhgeGArCAgYQABgIGB7CAgkQABgeGMkDGArCAgsQABiABBiKBRiSA8ICCBAAGAUYHhgKwgIIEC4YBRgeGArCAgoQABgFGB4YDxgKwgIGEAAYBRgewgIIEAAYgAQYogSYAwSSBwQ1MS4zoAfbkgI&sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

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     Ulrike Hahn (ulrikehahn@fediscience.org)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 02:12:01 JST Ulrike Hahn

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     @tchambers but it only goes out to servers in as much as there is someone there that follows me. If I have a small account it’s not unlikely that I would escape being scraped., no? certainly if awareness of this is raised…