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   Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 04:48:59 JST Annika Backstrom

   IRC: probably works fine with clients and servers from 20+ years ago

   Discord: needs to install 15 updates because I haven't launched it since yesterday

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 05:40:33 JST Annika Backstrom

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     • Lemuel :leafeon:

     @omni My main beef is Discord is built as a webapp that relies heavily on proprietary APIs rather than standards, and as a privately owned enterprise it's highly incentivised to force you to update rather than maintain backwards compatibility, resulting in an annoying update loop every time I want to share a simple message (core functionality that has not meaningfully changed for the lifetime of the product)

     sorry for annoying you though

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     Lemuel :leafeon: (omni@elekk.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Apr-2024 05:40:34 JST Lemuel :leafeon:

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     @annika Also IRC: No protocol-level security of any kind (by default, hack it on yourself if you care), no persistent message log unless you use a bouncer (at least logs are decentralized, that's a cool idea), no hypermedia support of any kind, no search (but despite everyone complaining about Info being decentralized on Discord people have no issue asking others to join IRC to get basic info), need a bot (Nickserv) just to have basic account functionality and not get impersonated...

     What's the take here? "It's good when things never change"?

     Discord is shit for a million reasons but this is the most apples to oranges comparison imaginable I don't get why so many people demand that messaging in 2024 follow the standard of *IRC*

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 18:47:53 JST Annika Backstrom

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     • pinpox

     @pinpox I should use that! Some downtime sounds nice

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     pinpox (pinpox@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 18:47:55 JST pinpox

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     @annika matrix: no updates but still takes 5 minutes to startup