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    Urusan (urusan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:27:18 JST Urusan Urusan

    https://youtu.be/Y6UeNBj9rrU

    Russia's invasion of Ukraine has seemingly been almost entirely driven by resources that were useful in the past but are now useless.

    The natural gas fields in eastern Ukraine that we need to stop using to avoid climate catastrophe, and now the naval port in Sevastopol which the war itself has proven to be obsolete.

    The linked video details how the naval situation has changed, with most large surface ships probably being useless.

    In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:27:18 JST from fosstodon.org permalink

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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:27:18 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @urusan ukraine is basically a proxy war, so nobody is losing to 'ukraine'. they are losing to NATO :neocat_woozy:
      In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:27:18 JST permalink
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      Urusan (urusan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:44:30 JST Urusan Urusan
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      • iced depresso

      @icedquinn Well, one of the most interesting developments is the sea drone. It's basically a remote control speedboat bomb, or an extreme range "cruise missile" torpedo.

      It's low tech and low cost enough that basically any state worldwide should be able to develop and deploy them without support by the great powers.

      They make large ships too vulnerable to get anywhere near an active conflict, which renders most large surface vessels useless.

      In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:44:30 JST permalink

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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:44:30 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @urusan large ships have fallen out of fashion since years ago though. its mostly destroyers guarding carriers, at least in the USA.
      In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:44:30 JST permalink
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      Urusan (urusan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:51:31 JST Urusan Urusan
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      • iced depresso

      @icedquinn Between this and the unexpected effectiveness of much simpler ground to ground missiles (when used properly), it will lead to an overall shift away from large surface vessels. This is a lot like the obsolescence of battleships after WW2.

      Sevastopol is useful pretty much entirely for large vessels, so this shift means it's now strategically unimportant, even if I'm sure many countries will continue to act like it is still strategically important.

      In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:51:31 JST permalink
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      iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:51:31 JST iced depresso iced depresso
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      @urusan you can use an obsolete military port as a trade port
      In conversation Monday, 01-Apr-2024 05:51:31 JST permalink

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