@Dan_Hulson@TheEternalAnglo tfw can't even play games right now because my GPU finally burned out after a decade of constant use Waiting on a payout from last years work to pull the trigger on a whole new rig (mine is a mash of parts as old as 15 something years). I should start shanghaiing DD2 now so it's ready.
@TheEternalAnglo I finished the game and cheated heavily so I kept offline turned off. I made a cheat script but there is a proper trainer out now you want it?
@Eiswald@Humpleupagus@TheEternalAnglo Mate the GPU is dogshit and you will have limited upgrade options due to the form factor just build your own. It is fine for some older games and stuff but not modern gay AAA stuff
@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@TheEternalAnglo I didn't even know these exist. My fully upgraded rig is going to be about 1,400 total. I wonder what the insides of one of these looks like.
It's for pro-audio processing. Standard is that each "channel" gets its own core, until there's none left, then they have to share / wait. The more cores, the better. The ram is necessary to load the sample libraries. Ethernet isn't really required, except to process dante / rednet. But it has its own card for the audio transfer, (128x128 bidirectional channel matrix at 80usec port to port), so actual nic does very little work other than identifying devices, and assigning routes on the matrix.
What are you doing for "home entertainment"? You may not need that much power. Kodi runs fine stand alone on a Odroid N2+. For a $100 you can get a refurbished optiplex micro with 16gb ddr4 and a 128gb ssd that'll run a full desktop plus kodi and retroarch, etc. (I use one in my living room). Storage may be an issue, but any old cpu with a 1gb nic should work as a file server. Just throw a 8tb hdd in it (or a couple of them) and call it a day. I think 1080p streams at 5mb/s if I recall, so you should be able to server a whole house even with a 10 year old i5.
@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@Eiswald@TheEternalAnglo I just bought DDR4 to replace my current ancient DDR3 rig yesterday. ~$50 for 2x16 at decent specs. Kind of having Buyer's Remorse already thinking maybe I should have bit the bullet and went AM5 DDR5 though. But- I don't game anymore and this is mainly just the home entertainment rig, so the upgrade is really only about getting faster M/2 and USB C capabilities. And being able to edit/crunch video without having to go get a cup of coffee while it renders. Probably have worse BR if I spill twice as much. Mobo not due till Tuesday, so I have time to think it over.
@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@Eiswald@TheEternalAnglo No. Going DDR5 in the AMD world means an AM5 cpu/mobo. Not chained to AMD or fanboy. This last rig with a AMD 7860k and asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X%20Extreme6+/ has by far been my nest PC experience ever though, so I am inclined to stick with it. Open to suggestions though. Last weekend I was about a beer away from going with this mobo and a 7600 APU. Mobo/APU/Memory is ~$500. Was $300 for this last gen.
@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@Eiswald@IAMAL_PHARIUS@TheEternalAnglo This is the media collection on this rig. All SSD. Several big spinners for backup with On/Off capability. The system you are describing does not sound superior to this 8 year old one. And, it has been flawless with 3 monitors and a dozen wired and remote input devices, too. Those two things are not negotiable.
@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@Eiswald@TheEternalAnglo even for office use, slim units and all in ones are clunkers. if it doesn't have a full sized pcie slot it's a dead end. no replacing any significant part. the fat modelis the same price usually, but you need to go looking for it.
also, fuck dell. get a Lenovo refurb if you going the surplus route.
@Mister_Sunshine@IAMAL_PHARIUS@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@TheEternalAnglo >I just bought DDR4 to replace my current ancient DDR3 rig yesterday That's what I'll hopefully be doing sometime next week. I'm hesitant about DDR5 since DDR4 has such a good reputation. With my current cart the DDR4 mobo with only one left in stock is actually over 100 dollars more expensive than the DDR5 version.
Don't need one for current use. I rarely use over 1gb of ram either. I bought these to replace two legacy third gen i5s. Those cpus ran fine even after 10+ years. I just had to take a vacation to wait for them to boot.
Browser and libreoffice obviously open quicker on these. I also ocr'd a 65 page pdf in about 10 seconds. Works for me.
I've owned serveral over the years, and I've never had an issue. They all still run.
And I'm not against the "Build your own rig" philosophy, as I've built several over the years for my personal use.
Like I said, these are for office use. It's not worth my time building PC for that, like literally. It's more pragmatic to use that time to bill and buy another pc if shit breaks.
Those were gaming rigs though. Pre-builts in that area is always dangerous. They have to add as many features as possible while cutting the price point. Yields are narrow. Kinda like printers, where companies tend to sell them at a loss and make up on toner etc.
Pre-built gaming pcs are also bleeding edge, rush to market. So you're asking for problems.
My understanding is that pricing isn't as competitive in general computing, so they get a better yield, and the products tend to use more stable, legscy components / designs.
oh, yeah, well my Lenovo L430 has lotsa stuff you don't have. It's got a PCI card slot. and one of those CD players, the tray pops out if you hit the button. a VGA? connector, maybe? and a docking port connector on the bottom!
and: a removable battery! (for which i need a replacement, 'cos this one only holds a charge for about 2 minutes off the power supply)
Yeah. And I also think that PCs are really about use case. You generally shouldn't use anything more powerful than you need.
For example, and this will prolly make you laugh, at my office, I use an hp elite desk with a 4th gen i3 (2 core, 4 thread). Why? One, it was free. Someone gave three of them. Second, because I can easily lock it in the safe when I leave. But ultimately, third, because I don't use a computer much at the office. I'm usually meeting with clients, and when I do use one, it's typically for printing and scanning.
I fucking hate windows. When I get a new PC ... "with windows" ... I feel like a they're trying to move a nigger into my neighborhood. I'm like... get the fuck out of my neighborhood, nigger. But they keep coming up with new ways to make removing him harder. I have to boot in, go through the whole setup process, go to safe boot, reboot, select ... bios, turn off the correct 20 features, and then hope it boots up a linux live usb so I get get a build on the internal drive. 😒
Just throw plasma on as one of the windows manager options. I think there's a kunbuntu build that looks just like windows 11 out there that includes a wine layer. She won't even notice.
The only thing stopping me from linux is my wife, my lazy ass, and half the games bork on linux. Its getting better especially since the deck is linux so they are moving compatibility to it.
@Dudebro@Humpleupagus@Dan_Hulson@Eiswald@TheEternalAnglo I cannot game on windows anymore something corrupted directx and most games crash right away when loading in, others get 15 minutes of play. all my games work on Linux because I have no other choices