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   Jacek Wesołowski (jzillw@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Saturday, 30-Mar-2024 17:25:26 JST Jacek Wesołowski

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   @glassbottommeg The world's population has been oscillating between rural and urban since the ancient times. The reasons were complicated, e.g. Graeber mentions in "Debt" that in the ancient times people would run into the rural areas to escape from usury. The standard of living needed to only be relatively higher in a chosen aspect, such as "you're les likely to die" or "your creditor won't rape your daughter".

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     Megan Fox (glassbottommeg@peoplemaking.games)'s status on Saturday, 30-Mar-2024 17:25:27 JST Megan Fox

     So, #history question: I was taught that industrialization/urbanization, the move from farming communities into cities, happened because it provided a higher standard of living, no more starvation etc.

     I'm pretty sure that was bullshit, given everything else I've read about the life of say, bakers in cities (and those who relied on their literal singular Daily Bread). Or how many holidays a Christian peasant apparently got.

     How did that actually go down? Was urbanization better at first and only got so bad after? Was it because they were coming out of like, the black death or something? Just times were changing?