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    shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 (shom@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:32 JST shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽
    • Codeberg
    • Drew DeVault

    It was wise of @drewdevault to host redict (redis fork) on @Codeberg to maintain workflow parity with github and avoid any perceived conflicts of interest¹.

    I wondered why LGPL and not of AGPL², which is also explained nicely: "but we want to make it as easy as possible for users to comply with the Redict license and we do not see any reason to discourage cloud providers from making use of Redict."

    Hope other marquee projects follow suite.

    ¹https://fosstodon.org/@drewdevault/112167165399257154
    ² https://redict.io/posts/2024-03-22-redict-is-an-independent-fork/#why-lgpl

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      Redict is an independent, copyleft fork of Redis®
      Like many of you, I was disappointed when I learned that Redis®1 was changing to a non-free licensing model. This is a betrayal of the free software community, but perhaps not an entirely surprising one. Forks are likely to start appearing in the coming days, and today, I would like to offer Redict to you as a possible future home for your needs, and present its trade-offs as compared to the other forks you’re likely to be choosing from soon.
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      Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:26 JST Drew DeVault Drew DeVault
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      • immibis

      @shom @immibis @Codeberg moreover, it is a stronger political rejection of RedisLab's re-licensing move if the license of Redict does not eliminate any use-cases, such that it can quickly and effectively make the now-proprietary upstream software irrelevant.

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      Drew DeVault (drewdevault@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:27 JST Drew DeVault Drew DeVault
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      • Codeberg
      • immibis

      @shom @immibis @Codeberg even as a user of AGPL for several of my own projects I recognize that it is a pain in the ass to comply with, especially for projects that don't have a web interface.

      I wrote about "why not always use AGPL here":

      https://discourse.writefreesoftware.org/t/what-is-your-current-go-to-license/60/6?u=ddevault

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      shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 (shom@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:28 JST shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽
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      • immibis

      @immibis ah okay, yeah I agree on principle for sure but not on existing projects that are already in use by the cloud providers. If redict was licensed as AGPL (which is what I would have thought) then none of the existing cloud companies would likely use redict. So none of the contributions they make would never make it out as FOSS.
      1/2

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      shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 (shom@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:28 JST shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽
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      • Drew DeVault
      • immibis

      @immibis But in this case, with LGPL they can/might switch to redict and could continue contributing. I'm using can/might/could to illustrate that it's a possiblity, not a guarantee, but AGPL would be a guaranteed no.

      So in this specific case @drewdevault's choice gives a better shot for contributions from cloud providers to land on @Codeberg than AGPL hosted on sourcehut.

      2/2

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      immibis (immibis@social.immibis.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:29 JST immibis immibis
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      @shom when I make the software a lesser version of GPL so that cloud providers will notice me, senpai. It's the software equivalent of underbidding your wage or working conditions so that you get the job.
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      shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 (shom@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:30 JST shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽 shom 🐧📷🤿🏔️🪚✊🏽
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      • immibis

      @immibis sorry, which part is FOSS class treason, I didn't follow.

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      immibis (immibis@social.immibis.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:32 JST immibis immibis
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      • Drew DeVault
      @shom @drewdevault @Codeberg of course - the FOSS equivalent of class treason
      In conversation Wednesday, 27-Mar-2024 23:38:32 JST permalink

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