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   Lucid00 (lucid00@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Saturday, 23-Mar-2024 20:29:55 JST Lucid00

   A lot of people in the #Fediverse are saying that Threads joining is a form of "Embrace, extend, extinguish" and IMO I don't think that's the case.

   There's no need for Meta to kill this network or absorb it.

   ActivityPub by design favors big servers like Meta's, it also not being nomadic (like BlueSky *cough*) means that users can't easily jump ship from a server they don't like.

   I already see the #FediPact posts discussing leaving notable servers like Mastodon.social and it's silly IMO.

   By design this whole network was built on shaky ground and when discussion of any Bluesky style improvements came up most users flipped out.

   We'll be here again and again until those improvements come, if they ever come.

   Reality is Meta knows they're king already and they don't need the regular users on the Fediverse.

   IMO they want the WordPress profiles.
   They want the illusion of freedom for celebrities and corporations.

   "Host your own Facebook Page" basically.

   I also lets them duck any regulatory oversight.

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     Lucid00 (lucid00@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2024 17:01:13 JST Lucid00

     • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

     @tokyo_0 Building a new network off of Instagram a social network they bought?

     There's multiple cases here so you'll have to be specific.

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     Lucid00 (lucid00@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2024 18:43:52 JST Lucid00

     • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

     @tokyo_0 Yeah and Meta prior to joining the Fediverse got 130 million monthly active users very quickly on their own.

     That's more than the entire non-Threads Fediverse which is around 15 million total accounts, not MAUs and that number doesn't subtract how many are bot accounts.

     Meta doesn't need the network of the fediverse nor do they want it, it's about the protocol.

     • ActivityPub allows them to dodge regulatory scrutiny if they ever want to merge Facebook, Instagram and Threads.

     • It allows them to dodge the "walled garden" criticisms.

     • It allows them to exert pressure on competitors.
     Like if TikTok joins the Fediverse, that now means that Meta will have a library of TikTok videos for their users to watch.

     Mastodon, MissKey, Pleroma, Friendica, PixelFed, etc... mean nothing to Meta other than being a good excuse for when the DOJ starts asking questions (they can point to us and say "See we're not being unfair, we play nice with the Fediverse").

     Also worth noting that Facebook has 3 billion monthly active users, the total number of non-Meta Fediverse accounts aren't 0.5% of what Facebook serves in a month.