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    Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 08:18:03 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy

    200+ yrs of US abuses in #Haiti

    In 2021, "Haiti's president…was assassinated by…mercenaries, some of whom had received US military training. A Florida-based security company reportedly connected whoever wanted Moïse killed with the mercenaries…

    [US] Ambassador Foote, in his resignation letter, blasted the US & other nations for...backing Moïse's unelected replacement [when] Haiti's chief prosecutor said he found evidence linking [him] to the president's killing"

    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/05/1042518732/-the-greatest-heist-in-history-how-haiti-was-forced-to-pay-reparations-for-freed

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      'The Greatest Heist In History': How Haiti Was Forced To Pay Reparations For Freedom
      Haiti is one of the poorest nations in the world, and rich countries have their fingerprints all over the nation's stunted development.
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      AnarchoNinaWrites (anarchoninawrites@jorts.horse)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 08:18:00 JST AnarchoNinaWrites AnarchoNinaWrites
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      @chargrille Reading this book literally changed my life:

      https://libcom.org/article/black-jacobins-toussaint-louverture-and-san-domingo-revolution-clr-james

      (PDF inside)

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 08:18:02 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      The Haitian Revolution was the most important act of political liberation of the 18th century. It revealed the racist limits of both the US (1776) & the French (1789) Revolutions, & their constitutions.

      Which explains why colonial powers, including the new United States, spent the last 230 years, doing everything they could to crush the new nation of formerly enslaved people.

      St. Domingue was the *richest colony in the world* in 1791 when its enslaved peoples rose up to overthrow their captors

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 08:44:40 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      It was *absolutely not* merely about $ for Napoleon or the US Founding Fathers.

      Napoleon specifically framed it as a question of racial domination. He called it the "Black Specter" & saw it as a threat to white supremacy. Everyone in the white colonial world discussed the Haitian Revolution constantly. They were *obsessed*. Jefferson was terrified.

      Haiti's black citizens defeated Napoleon's military efforts to re-enslave them. He promptly sold Louisiana to the US dirt cheap, doubling its size.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 08:44:51 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      That richesse rested *entirely* on the kidnapping of black peoples from Africa & the theft of their labor via slavery, an institution maintained by the governments of white colonizers. Haiti's Revolution was the largest revolt of enslaved peoples in history.

      In response, the Revolutionary government of France abolished slavery. When Napoleon took over & declared himself "First Consul"/emperor he reinstated slavery specifically to try to force the citizens of Haiti to pay France's/his debts.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 09:07:05 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      Haiti's Black Democracy's forced impoverishment is as far from an accident as possible.

      You probably also have been taught "reparations are unrealistic/undoable."

      No again. In 1825 an alliance of slaveholding powers forced the citizens of Haiti into ***providing reparations to their prior "owners"*** - ***a& to their descendants*** - in what UVa scholar Marlene Daught has termed "the greatest heist in history."

      Renowned French economist Thomas Piketty estimates France owes Haiti BILLIONS.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 09:07:06 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      After liberation in 1804, Haiti "was almost immediately made a pariah state by world powers[. POTUS] Thomas Jefferson worked to isolate Haiti diplomatically & strangle it economically, fearing that the success of Haiti would inspire slave revolts back home. With the invention & spread of the cotton gin, slavery was becoming much more lucrative at the very same time a free Haiti was coming into existence." The US "didn't officially recognize Haiti until 1862, as slavery began being abolished."

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 09:07:07 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      Now, I wonder what you were taught in school about the Louisiana Purchase. Probably some hagiographic crap about what a clever genius Jefferson was at negotiation.

      No. The Haitian people taught Napoleon that he could not control them from so far. Imo it was more important to Napoleon to maintain white supremacy & the institution of slavery - than to maintain its own colony. The new "American" colonists were closer to hand & had a better shot at controlling enslaved people.

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        Financial Engineering in Norway - Remis AS / Ketil Wig
        Financial Engineering in Norway: Strategy execution, mergers and acquisitions, ownership strategies, post-merger integrations, restructurings and turnarounds.
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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 12:24:17 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      Those French bank "loans" Haiti's citizens were forced to shoulder in 1825 came with " hefty interest rates." From 1825 to 1947, "Haiti paid French slaveholders & their descendants the equivalent of between $20 & $30 billion."

      Think of the billions stolen from black Haitian children & delivered to slavers' great-grandchildren.

      Again, vs.: England's prompt & full recognition of American independence in 1783 Treaty of Paris, as well as a vast land grant that doubled the size of the new nation.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 12:24:19 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      IKYK the "post-slavery" US government's interference & domination of the world's first Black democratic nation didn't end there.

      Haitians were forced to pay 150m francs for their "inalienable" right to freedom.

      That was 10 times the amount Jefferson had paid France for the Louisiana Purchase - territory 77 times the size of Haiti.

      Contrast:England's prompt & full recognition of American independence in 1783 Treaty of Paris, as well as a vast land grant that doubled the size of the new nation.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 12:24:20 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      Now, *somehow,* no white nation besides France was willing to "lend" lucrative Haiti the $ to pay to their white "masters" for rights Jefferson had described as natural & "inalienable".

      This joint extortion by slave powers, trapped Haiti in a prison of debt it took 122 yrs to pay.

      Then, the US "violently occupied" Haiti for 19 yrs in the early 1900s. It "left Haiti in 1934 [but] continued to control Haiti's public finances until 1947, siphoning away around 40% of Haiti's national income"

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 21:25:15 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      The US put its full force behind these abhorrent payments by generations of Haitian descendants of enslaved people, to white French descendants of slavers.

      But when Aristide, the first democratically elected Haitian head of state in decades, talked of French reparations to Haitians, the US engineered a coup [with France] & deposed him.

      Just as GOP prevents US students from learning the history of slavery, French students did not learn about their history with #Haiti.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/20/world/americas/haiti-aristide-reparations-france.html

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      MacropodCarer: Verified 🌈🦘🦣 (macropodcare@mastodon.au)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 21:26:10 JST MacropodCarer: Verified 🌈🦘🦣 MacropodCarer: Verified 🌈🦘🦣
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      @chargrille
      My deep apologies. I'm looking everywhere for my surprised face. 😮

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      David Nathanson (d_j_nathanson@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 21:26:13 JST David Nathanson David Nathanson
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      @chargrille Folk can read the letters of US government officials from the time. It’s not debatable. It was a full on racist panic in most quarters.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 21:26:24 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      Last thing, circling back to the piece in the first post: I hope the foregoing thread explains why this ⬇️ [screenshot] was such a horrible betrayal by Biden Democrats trying to score points with racist voters, as "tough on migrants" – & why the US special envoy to Haiti that Biden had just appointed, resigned in disgust over it.

      "I will not be associated with the United States' inhumane, counterproductive decision to deport thousands of Haitian refugees," Foote wrote in his resignation letter.

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Mar-2024 21:26:25 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      There is obviously a LOT more that needs to be in this thread but I am having a hard time, I've run out of spoons for the day [#ChronicSARSCOV2 #MECFS #longcovid #COVIDIsntOver]

      Several people have dropped links to excellent resources for further reading - thank you all! Definitely check those out!

      The main thing is, share this info with people casually dropping #Haiti news.

      THERE IS A REASON THEY SUFFER, & IT IS US, & WE OWE THEM.

      Also https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/20/world/americas/haiti-history-colonized-france.html

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        The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers (Published 2022)
        from By Catherine Porter, Constant Méheut, Matt Apuzzo and Selam Gebrekidan
        In 1791, enslaved Haitians ousted the French and founded a nation. But France made generations of Haitians pay for their freedom. How much it cost them was a mystery, until now.
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      Stoney Takes (stoneycase@heads.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Mar-2024 10:02:15 JST Stoney Takes Stoney Takes
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      @chargrille 😳 that is awful. Thanks for bringing this story to Masto. What I’ve read over the years about Haiti was so dismal and has apparently only gotten worse. This is abhorrent.

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      13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 05:51:26 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat
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      @tadbithuman @chargrille

      Oof https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/136114/view/hispaniola-caribbean-satellite-image

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      Nobody ناچیز नास्ति (he/him) (tadbithuman@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 05:51:27 JST Nobody ناچیز नास्ति (he/him) Nobody ناچیز नास्ति (he/him)
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      The island of Hispaniola is bald on the Haitian side, denuded to pay the 'debt', leading to massive runoff of water in storms causing crop failures, leaving Haiti exposed to ravages of nature.

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