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   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:37:06 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   So apparently a plate of rigatoni with cheese and red sauce according to the restaurant is like 1600 calories.... how the fuck is a single plate of food literally a full days worth of calories.... how! How is this normal....

   #Diet #WeightLoss

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     Don Thompson (guardeddon@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:39:18 JST Don Thompson

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     Sugar?

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:42:42 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Don Thompson

     @guardeddon Shouldnt be too much sugar in such a dish. Some from the tomatoes but I cant imagine that the bulk of the calories.

     I'm sure like 2/3 of it is from the carbs.. its just insane how many calories can be in a single plate of food that isnt even an alfredo sauce or anything too crazy.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:43:13 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Erin

     @FortuitousMess Not by the looks of it.. it has some cheese on it that is certainly not helping. But i dunno, I dont get it. My guess is its the carbs.

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     Erin (fortuitousmess@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:43:14 JST Erin

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     @freemo is it floating in a bowl of olive oil?? That’s a lot of calories!

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     Don Thompson (guardeddon@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 08:16:39 JST Don Thompson

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     Manufactured pasta sauces with a tomato base will, typically, include sugar.
     I make my own, no sugar.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 08:17:46 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Don Thompson

     @guardeddon Not sure what you mean, tomato sauce would have sugar in it if you make your own or not. Tomatoes have sugar in them so you can not make a sauce at home without sugar. In fact only way to make a sugar free sauce would be with a manufacturing process that removed the sugar from tomatoes.

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     Don Thompson (guardeddon@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 08:19:27 JST Don Thompson

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     @freemo Added sugar. In addition to naturally occurring in the fruit.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 08:22:54 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Don Thompson

     @guardeddon Ahh ok... that still seems like a very odd distinction to make though. Not trying to give you a hard time, just trying to understand why yoru phrasing it that way or what information your trying to convey.

     Why is it different if the sugar gets in there as part of some other ingredient or in its own? If at home I add cane syrup to my food it doesnt count as added sugar cause its just juice from a plant? But if i dry it out first it counts as sugar?

     Are you just trying to say store bought sauce tends to have more overall sugar content then when you make it at home because they use a recipe that is higher in sugar content? If so that makes sense then but wouldnt apply here, its a restaurant and home made most likely.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 08:23:51 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Don Thompson

     @guardeddon Also by the way traditional northern red sauce recipes actually include sugar, southern recipes tend not to.

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     Don Thompson (guardeddon@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 07:10:10 JST Don Thompson

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     @freemo I should have been clear, I mean added sugar, not the naturally occurring sugars. Tomato is a fruit so, yes, natural sugar. Manufacturers of processed foods tend to add sugar.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 07:18:14 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Don Thompson

     @guardeddon Yes i know what you meant, but its confusing because all sugar is natural and from plants. Raw sugar is just sugar cane extract. Raw sugar is no different than sugar when its still inside the plant.