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   goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:41:56 JST goatsarah
   Watching discussions of cross border rail ticketing in Europe on my TL while living in Portugal and being like, “you guys have trains that go to other places?”
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     Miguel Arroz (arroz@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 02:57:55 JST Miguel Arroz

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     • Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

     @TimWardCam @goatsarah Spain and Portugal use the Iberian gauge (not sure what the historical reasons are). However, the AVE (Spanish high speed network) was built using the standard gauge so the trains can continue to France without interruptions. The Portuguese high speed network will be built using the same standard gauge but of course we have been debating it for several decades instead of building it, per fine Portuguese tradition.

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 02:57:57 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @goatsarah Doesn't Portugal have a non-standard gauge or something, I think I remember from long ago? On purpose, designed to make it hard to be invaded?

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     Miguel Arroz (arroz@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 03:01:17 JST Miguel Arroz

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     @goatsarah The other day I asked for transit directions between Lisbon and somewhere near Mont-Saint-Michel and holy shit no wonder people fly everywhere and rent cars locally. Even inside France it kinda sucks, since they built the TGV as a star centred in Paris, so you always need to go through Paris if you’re travelling between two different places. The only viable option to leave Portugal by train was Vigo which turns into buses as soon as it reaches Vigo. Lisbon-Madrid is badly needed…

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 03:01:17 JST goatsarah

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     • Miguel Arroz
     @arroz Honestly, I’d take ferries to Barcelona and maybe Bordeaux or something. They would get used, if they existed.