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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 10:41:43 JST Bread up, Bro
   big "who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes" vibes
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     Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 10:47:29 JST Paultron-3030

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     @NitroDubs @sickburnbro just don't arrest them and it doesn't count as a violent crime
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     @sickburnbro These numbers are even more cooked than the economic numbers.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 10:50:00 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     And if big city DAs allow soft plea deals, that will also bring the numbers down.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 11:05:31 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Do deferred cases get reported? Those are typically "sealed."
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     ☢️ :hacker_s: :hacker_n: :hacker_e: :hacker_e: :hacker_d: :what_a_shame: (nitrodubs@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 11:05:32 JST ☢️ :hacker_s: :hacker_n: :hacker_e: :hacker_e: :hacker_d: :what_a_shame:

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     @PunishedD @Humpleupagus @Paultron @sickburnbro This is true, and they are also playing a statistical game with the years chosen. The 2010's were pretty low crime overall which spiked horribly in 2020. By starting the graph at the peak and showing a couple years afterward they can make it look like crime is significantly lower when in reality it isn't.
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     PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 11:05:33 JST PunishedD

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     @Humpleupagus @NitroDubs @Paultron @sickburnbro It depends on what they're measuring. PDs report the number of crimes reported, arrests, cases open vs cases closed. The FBI consolidates the numbers, but also have metrics around types that mismatch what local PDs have. So it might be possible they're going off of cases open, which could be down if nobody collects them or treats them as viable cases; plus an FBI filter that curbs it to specific categories. I haven't looked into the recent numbers, but there's also usually a 1-2 year lag publishing them. No way do they have accurate numbers for all 3 years right now, I bet there's estimation hidden in that chart.