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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 13:19:30 JST clacke

   Men and women on the internet thinking Chani would have been a better character if she had smiled more.

   We have so much work to do. Where to start.

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     AN/CRM-114 (flyingsaceur@ioc.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 16:10:56 JST AN/CRM-114

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     @clacke Chani was not having anyone’s bullshit, i was there for that

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     Paul (paul@social.lightlyseared.online)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 16:11:00 JST Paul

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     @clacke That's insane. Chani didn't take any crap from anyone. I thought the character was superb.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 18:01:22 JST clacke

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     • Paul

     @Paul Their response to that is "[being a contrarian is no more a sign of agency than being supportive]".

     I think the movie could have been more clear. Lots of people seem to interpret it as her not understanding that the marriage to Irulan is purely political, and she's just jealous and throwing a tantrum. I think it's clear that she's smart and thoughtful, not impulsive.

     Paul thinks going deeper into messianism and imperial intrigue is the only way to protect the Fremen and get revenge for his House, and she thinks that's bullshit and that the power has gone to his head.

     They're both right, of course.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 18:01:23 JST clacke

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     Some people also think they broke up, so how will they have babies now, how will there be a Leto II.

     People, people, she showed that she was angry and then left the room. That's it. How fragile are your relationships?

     @Paul

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 18:02:32 JST clacke

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     • Paul
     @Paul It was clear to you and me, but not to these people. Probably because they disagree on some fundamental values.
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     Paul (paul@social.lightlyseared.online)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 18:02:33 JST Paul

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     @clacke I didn't feel that the film was unclear on this. She clearly knew her own mind and we saw several examples of this throughout.

     Paul did spring the marriage to Ireland and, with the way Chani's character had been portrayed, it was completely within character for her to leave in the way that she did.

     She didn't agree with the direction Paul was taking. She knew she couldn't change it. Leaving was the only option left open to her.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 18:02:36 JST clacke

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     @Paul Princess Ireland, thank you autocorrect 🤣
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     Paul (paul@social.lightlyseared.online)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 00:58:41 JST Paul

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     @clacke Probably. I often suspect a wilful failure to comprehend in cases like this.

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