I finally lugged my Highscreen SkyTower AT tower up to my office. This machine is beautiful, even when it's yellowed and dusty and grimy and rusty.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:57 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:21 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
ooh cool, I was able to get the picante CR2032s!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:24 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Hmm. Nothing from the motherboard: It doesn't ever init the VGA. I'm gonna need to find my POST card. Hoping it's just one of those units that won't power on without a CMOS battery
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:26 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Putting a modern gamer-black PSU in a classic AT tower is just wrong.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:29 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
But in the meantime, lemme just grab a modern PSU and my ATX2AT
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:32 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Darn. My clean PSU isn't gonna fit into this case, the fan + power plugs are at the wrong location. I'll have to pull another one from my Car Fulla AT Towers.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:37 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I pulled out the Rustmaster 9000 PSU. This is not getting tested, it's going directly back into the swamp from whence it came
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:39 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
bah. my battery box has gone missing. I can't find my CR2032s
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:41 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Okay, fan and heatsink cleaned up. Fan tested, and reattached.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:44 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
fan and heatsink are very messy. very, very messy.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:46 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
CPU!
It's a A80502-100 SX963: A 100mhz Pentium 1, bus speed of 50 or 66 mhz.This is post-FDIV fix. Boooo.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:48 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
okay I had to take an hour long break to fix pastejpeg.
Here's the insides!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:51 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
my got-damn JPEGifer is broken again. why am I uploading big PNGs?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:52 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
it's even got a drive in it! and it's not locked! yay. These caddies are too small for the usual tubular lock impressioning tools so they're a pain to pick. It's usually just easier to disassemble the fucker.
It's a Seagate ST32120A, 2111 MB
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:54 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
check it out: screwless entry. it has a handle you just slide to open it.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:32:56 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
and yeah, it's got a sliding door in case you need to hide your drives!
And good god, look at how many bays this has.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:22 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I realized I need a serial mouse to reinstall NT4 onto this machine. but that shouldn't be a problem, right? I've got a whole drawer of old mice, I just need to grab the first serial mouse out of there.
This was the first one I found.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:23 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I was able to get info and find out that this machine hosted this website at some point in 2005:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040325064945/http://www.windowsacademy.net/
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:24 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I dunno why this drive isn't working
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:24 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
ok I'm officially giving up on this drive.
I was able, in the end, to capture about 54mb of the drive. 2.48%
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:25 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
oops. I accidentally hotplugged the hard drive
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:26 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I was able to do the trick I did before where I repeatedly reset the SCSI host device until it is recognized.
the problem is that it keeps falling right back off the bus when I try to run ddrescue
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:26 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
sdb: detected capacity change from 2111864832 to 0
awww, my bytes are gone
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:27 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I made a program to scrape the status from ddrescue, just in time for it to error out and drop the drive from the bus:
Copied 52400 kB of 2048 mB (2.48%) at an average rate of 501 B/s. ETA: 1h 27m
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:28 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
it has somehow sped up to the point where it thinks it'll finish within the next 2 hours, despite having only copied 2.48% (51mb) of the drive. It's getting an average read rate of 510 bytes a second
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:28 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I wonder if I could adjust the IDE timeout without having to recompile my kernel
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:29 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I paused it to implement some tmux nonsense so I could actually make this bot if I want to, which made it slow down.
So now it's estimating it'll be done August 15...
2028
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:30 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
hooking up a mastodon bot to post whenever it updates
currently at 7036k
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:30 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
@hennichodernich found an advert for (almost) this exact model!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:31 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
left it running overnight and I'm now up to 6.6mb recovered!
also it slowed down. It's going to finish around July 7th
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from what I did get off, it looks like the removable 2gig drive stored the websites this thing hosted.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:32 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I did manage to get it starting to scrape the 2gig drive.
ddrescue has been running for 78 minutes and has saved 716kb.So, it'll finish around March 24th
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:33 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
yeah, the other drive was kinda working before, but I couldn't get DMA to turn off, and now it's completely failed.
ata5.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x2)
shame.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:34 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
so the 2gig drive is still failing to work, but I imaged the 500mb drive, and it turns out this thing was running NT4.
So I was correct! This machine smelled like NT4, and I was proven right.
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it seems it was running InterMail Post.Office, a mail server for small ISPs
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:35 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
there are 900 ways to disable DMA and none of them work
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:36 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
okay I spent a few minutes swearing at the bad menu system on this monitor and it turns out it's broken so that you can't mirror it left or right, it's always mirrored, but the left/right mirroring does turn off if you flip it vertically. So I did, and just rotated the monitor upside down. I guess that works.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:36 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I'm trying to dump the drives before I do anything with this machine and one of them has broken DMA. It's really annoying because I can't seem to turn it off, and every time I google it I get results from 2002 saying "the old way doesn't work anymore", which doesn't give me any reason to expect it'll work in 2024
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:37 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Good news! yanking the modem/network card (and reseating the VGA card) made it work. Beeps and boots and everything!
I did run into a minor problem with my portable VGA monitor. uhhhhhh
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:38 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
And the modem is a Diamond SupraExpress 144i PnP. 14,400bps of blinding speed.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:38 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
And our video card is a STB Systems Horizon+ PCI, built around a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5430.
This is a 2D accelerator with an entire megabyte of VRAM.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:39 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
okay I pulled the cards.
We've got a 3com EtherLink-IIII, a 3C509B-IP.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 06:53:40 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Darn. No luck with the CR2032s. There's a possibly my VGA display is broken (it's acting weird) but there's no beeps.
I'll have to pull the other expansion cards in case they're dead, but I'm all dusted-out today
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 17:58:39 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I think I'm gonna need to do a motherboard swap on this machine. It'll POST, sure... unless I connect any of the IDE connectors. As soon as I try to have any kind of hard drive, it fails to init VGA and doesn't even beep
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 17:58:39 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I grabbed another computer of about the same era from my car.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 17:59:44 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
She lives!
Mostly. CMOS battery low... that's not a good sign. I think this one has a dallas clock chip/battery package
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:01:06 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
scraping it off and snorting it so that I turn into a retrocomputer fungus zombie
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:01:07 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
this might be the first time I need to clean a computer case with bleach
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also not a fan of this stuff. is this mold?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:01:09 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
YEP. That's a DS12887A real time clock + battery module.
Booooo
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:02:06 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Yanked all the cards so you can see the motherboard.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:02:07 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
this says it's a problem with the metal not being properly anodized, so parts are oxidizing:
https://aerospacemetalsllc.com/managing-white-spots-on-metal-finishes/So it's harmless
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:03:04 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
ah-ha! I knew it wasn't a fucking Pentium II.
It's an AMD K6-III "Sharptooth", 450 MHz.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:03:05 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
And the sound card is a CT2960 Creative Sound Blaster 16 Prelude.
It's a budget card based on the Vibra 16C chip.
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OKAY I grabbed another computer, mainly because it was weird when I looked at it, and I want to look closer.
The front says it's an Alexis Series from NCA Computer Products, and says it's a Pentium II.And this is the tall tower by Inwin! The classic IW-Q500, which I didn't realize I had (I thought I only had the smaller ones, the V500 and A500)
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The network card is an ISA card with no name on it, and the main chip is an FPX FP96C01 .
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VGA card is a PCI card without a name (seems to be a clone of an Acer ALiCAT). It's got an ALi M3147v core, and something like 2-4 mb of ram (can't find the RAM chips on google)
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:04:43 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I was all "there's your problem, it's bent!" but then I realized this is the vertical movement. aka the only axis that is working!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:04:44 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Opened it up.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:04:45 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I got it to boot, but the mouse isn't working properly. I only have vertical movement.
god damn it I don't want to have to attempt to repair Winnie the Pooh
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:05:39 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
It's running Windows 98. It's got some dialup network called aristotle.net set up to auto connect, but seems to be mostly cleaned, thankfully. I'm getting kinda tired of finding a ton of personal information on these.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:05:40 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I gave up and switched to a different serial mouse. This is a Microsoft Serial-PS/2 mouse.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:06:28 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
it did have two bookmarks.
the first one is savebears.org:
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oh hey it still has an old version of yahoo.net cached
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and the other link is to a flash game called "Bad Apple" (not that one).
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:01 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
So here's the CD-ROM plugged in.
Do you notice anything slightly odd about the cable that's used to plug it in?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:02 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
It's got an AGP Creative CT6900 (nice) 3D Blaster S3 Savage 4.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:02 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
wait
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:03 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
anyway windows can't currently see the floppy drives or the CD-ROM. I'm gonna see if I can fix that so I can install WINNT4
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:04 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
and I found a name in the email and confirmed that the former owner of this machine died in 2019 of cancer.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:04 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
the emails also say this machine was set up in 2004, which is a bit late for a windows 98 machine
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:05 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
It's in flashpoint:
https://flashpointproject.github.io/flashpoint-database/search/#f5108f38-54b6-1bfc-a804-0a9e0383b980
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:58 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
THEY PLUGGED THE FLOPPY DISK CABLE INTO THE SCSI CD-ROM DRIVE
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:59 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
Here's a different angle. you can see from here that this is a SCSI CD-ROM drive, using a 50-pin connector.
You may notice that the cable plugged into it is slightly smaller.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:10:59 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
This also explains another problem this machine is having which I encountered earlier where the floppy disk drive(s) aren't working.
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:48 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I HAVE THE SCSI!
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:49 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
NEVERMIND I'M IN
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:49 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
fuck. The drive is indeed dead. it stopped spinning when I tried to put in disk 3, which has the SCSI drivers
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:50 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
damn it. I can't get disk 2 to read. Maybe my spare drive is bad?
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:51 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I'M IN
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:52 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
I'm gonna have to bend these cables back if I want to plug the SCSI cable back in
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Foone🏳️⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 09-Mar-2024 18:11:52 JST Foone🏳️⚧️
CD-ROM works, but I think the top floppy drive has failed. possibly plugging it through the CD-ROM fried something.
The bottom floppy drive is 720k, so I can't really boot my NT4 bootdisks from it
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