AnarchoNinaWrites
I mean I don't think there's any question that I want Biden to win; my left wing friends who are done with electoralism seem to have no problem understanding that and telling me I'm a beautiful dreamer. So really we're just at "I don't want to hear bad news about Biden" and I mean I can't really help you with that, the dude is fucking this up hardcore for reasons that don't compute to me and wouldn't change reality even if they did
If that's your thing, nobody said you had to be here reading me
AnarchoNinaWrites
Again, might I remind you - they're not talking about criminalizing YOUR identity/existence. You will almost certainly survive this. I probably won't. And only one of the people in this conversation has spent literal decades studying politics, political economy, and the rise of fascism. So you know nothing, and you'd like to keep it that way, and you're already looking for a way to blame ME for the fascism that will eventually mean my death.
And I'm supposed to feel bad for YOU?
Couldn't be me
AnarchoNinaWrites
I mean I find your worldview curious if I'm being honest with you. From my perspective, saying I think Trump is winning/will win unless Biden changes something, is sounding the alarm. Like, let's review here - you folks say the media is responsible for 2016 because they told folks Hillary had it in the bag for 6 months. And now you're saying *I'm* helping Trump win by saying "Trump is on track to win this."
So the solution then is what? Hope and vibes, are not a strategy.
AnarchoNinaWrites
The only way I can make it make sense, is if I presume that you have no strategy, that you're already looking for someone else to blame for the fascism that's breathing down our necks, that your entire political praxis is to cover your ears and chant "la la la la la" while pretending your leaders aren't screwing up a pretty winnable election, and that you don't want to hear any news that doesn't reflect well on Biden.
And well, see ya? That's basically like a weird cult. I'm not interested.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Fash-jacketing someone DIRECTLY on the firing line of a fascist culture war, who may well be dead by this date 2-3 years from now, because you are VERY upset they told you about the news, is some of the most privileged shit you can possibly do out here. And that's fine, I don't expect better of you people - but your feel bads really don't rate higher than my life. And it's that simple. Your fragility is not my pole star, and it never will be.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Finally and as an aside, saying a trans anarchist "wants Trump to win" is a very ugly smear, particularly when I'm the trans anarchist still talking to you and trying to do coalition politics, precisely to PREVENT a Trump win. As I told you last night, most people who've read the same books I've read, have long since given up on liberals, establishment or otherwise. If I wasn't trying to save myself, and your President's campaign, I'd already be in a bunker somewhere. It's mildly offensive.
AnarchoNinaWrites
And as for "you don't have any SOLUTIONS" that's just nonsense. I have presented many solutions. For starters, Joe Biden could run like he gives a shit about people whose votes he needs to win. Additionally, the Department of Justice could start treating nazis what tried a coup SERIOUSLY, including and especially nazis in Congress; they could make life HARD for fascists. Finally, we could hit the pavement and chase nazis out of public life, maybe even do a socialist revolution.
AnarchoNinaWrites
The fact that you either don't LIKE my solutions, or know in your heart Biden and his administration will never go for them, does not indicate an absence of solutions. Ceasing to support a genocide, would be part of a solution in and of itself and Biden could do that right now if he wanted to - he just doesn't want to, clearly.
Furthermore, I don't need to know how to fix a car, to know my car is broken. I DO know, I HAVE offered you solutions; but the whole argument is hogwash anyway.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@justafrog more or less, yes.
JustAFrog
@AnarchoNinaWrites Look, I know you're fearing for the life of yourself and people you care deeply for, but what about my mild sense of discomfort when I read your words?
-- shitlibs, probs
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
"Let's blame the fucking Anarchists! Worked for ages. What could be wrong with that?" 🤡
Well - pretty much everything, especially if it comes to putting the blame on anyone who didn't really try to prevent the rise of fascism. Just look up the definition of Anarchism. Just do it once and it *may* dawn on you just *how* wrong putting the blame on us might be.
Nick G
I love "fash-jacketing". Is that a Nina original?
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
It's at:
"We know the car is broken, so let's just pretend it runs fine and let's smile and make fun engine noises, okay?"
Question is - will this "solution" still work?
JimmyChezPants
I've been increasingly resistant to revolutionary ideas the older I get, I assume because I am too old to take part in them and am likely to be collateral damage in one.
I also firmly believe that ruling classes tend to force them to happen, when they happen. I look around me and I can see that humans are incredibly tolerant of abuse of all kinds, but I also see how thin the rubber band is getting.
And of course, I've glanced at history, so this seems likely now.
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
There's one more *subtle* difference:
We are fully aware of what's at stake, including the extreme difficulties to get rid of fascist rule once that is established.
I'm really not sure about their awareness if it starts with "Shut the fuck up, unite a little with the far right and fully support right-wing appeasement policies as well as any other shit they might be pushing through!".
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