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   Steven 🥖 (steven@zeroes.ca)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 05:53:35 JST Steven 🥖

   Hot take: it's exceptionally shitty for middle class people to reply to discussions of actual poverty by proclaiming their own non-richness.

   Yes, with housing and food costs where they are, it can be difficult to stay above water on $50,000 a year.

   No, that is not the same discussion being had when somebody is struggling to survive on $12,000 a year.

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     Steven 🥖 (steven@zeroes.ca)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 05:53:34 JST Steven 🥖

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     Minimum wage in BC is likely to get you around $30,000.

     That's not enough to pay for the basics, and it's also more than double what a lot of people are surviving on.

     Median income in BC is somewhere in the range of $50,000. More than 4x the welfare rate.

     If you have any sort of professional job, you're likely making something like $60,000. That's 5x.

     I make even more than that.

     With food prices and interest rates, I'm currently underwater.

     Things are really hard.

     But it would be wildly offensive for me to imply that I have any experience or knowledge about what poverty is like.

     I do not.

     That is not what poverty is.

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     Steven 🥖 (steven@zeroes.ca)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 05:53:35 JST Steven 🥖

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     The poorer you are, the more important each dollar is.

     $12,000 is what you'd make annually in BC from welfare, if you can get it.

     That is obviously not enough to pay for food and housing.

     You're already in the cheapest housing possible.

     You're already eating the cheapest food you can get, and probably not enough of it.

     Not every penny goes to survival, but only because you wouldn't have enough money to pay for survival anyways.