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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:01:43 JST Bread up, Bro
   the funny part here is .. the movie ultimately wasn't "bugs good, humans bad" .. the bugs were murder machines, and the whole human society thing at the beginning was played for a lark to get to the bug killing in the end.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:05:52 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @GinNig I just don't buy that. That's what marble brained antifa looking back are saying. The GIs storming normandy weren't antifa, and that was just a attempt to make a summer blockbuster. the end
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     Gin (ginnig@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:05:53 JST Gin

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     @sickburnbro the movie was also made to be an anti-fascist spoofy of the book
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:11:52 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @GinNig yeah, and Michael Bay has said absurd things about Transformers too.
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     Gin (ginnig@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:11:53 JST Gin

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     @sickburnbro the director said so, apparently. I like thought that it was intended to be anti-fascist, because how hard it failed
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     PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:15:11 JST PunishedD

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     @sickburnbro @GinNig No, the director is explicit about his intentions. "Robert Heinlein’s original 1959 science-fiction novel was militaristic, if not fascistic. So I decided to make a movie about fascists who aren’t aware of their fascism." "It’s an idiotic story: young people go to fight bugs. So I felt the human characters should have a comic-book look. Mark Wahlberg and Matt Damon auditioned, but I was looking for the prototype of blond, white and arrogant, and Casper Van Dien was so close to the images I remembered from Leni Riefenstahl’s films." "I borrowed from Triumph of the Will in the parody propaganda reel that opens the film, too. I was using Riefenstahl to point out, or so I thought, that these heroes and heroines were straight out of Nazi propaganda. No one saw it at the time. I don’t know whether or not the actors realised – we never discussed it. I thought Neil Patrick Harris arriving on the set in an SS uniform might clear it up." theguardian.com/culture/2018/jan/22/how-we-made-starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-nazis-leni-riefenstahl
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:15:11 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • Gin
     @PunishedD @GinNig yeah, said in 2018, just throw that entire bullshit in the trash.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:15:50 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @PunishedD @GinNig it was them trying to soften the militarism to make a summer block buster at best
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:16:31 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @PunishedD @GinNig that entire interview is him covering his ass because it doesn't actually go hard at all against "fascism" and those that are lapping that up are fucking rejects.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:26:27 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @wastelad I mean they were still bad in Ender's Game. the twist was just that they thought they were practicing, but they were doing it for real, and the explanation for it being "harder" at the end was that those were the fighters they had to launch first, so they weren't as good. ( not a bad twist )
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     wastelad (wastelad@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:26:28 JST wastelad

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     @sickburnbro "What if..... bug good???" go read Ender's Game then you fucking faggot
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:33:40 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @PunishedD @GinNig that's what I'm getting at though. Michael Bay says all kinds of things about the stuff he directs too.
     
     Authorial intent is dead and gay because it only matters in a society that isn't trash.
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     PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:33:41 JST PunishedD

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     @sickburnbro @GinNig Verhoeven's been giving that line in interviews since at least the early 2000s, it's not a recent TDS retcon. I agree that he failed to portray the fascists as the bad guys, but that's because he failed as a director. The point was to show the Aryan-looking, propagandized young supermodels dying ingloriously in a futile war. But the conventions of Hollywood blockbusters had them triumph in the end. The OP you showed, where sane people recognize the brain bug as objectively evil, is why.he failed. The antifa rejects are the ones picking up his intended message of "whitey go die like idiots".
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     wastelad (wastelad@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:33:54 JST wastelad

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     @sickburnbro Should have clarified: the Ender's Game series.
     Speaker for the Dead is about him having a telepathic dream from the hivemind, which leads him to a surviving egg which he incubates due to guilt from nuking the bug home world
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     wastelad (wastelad@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:34:40 JST wastelad

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     @sickburnbro However, I think this was written from a Mormon, pro-life angle and not the globohomo angle they want it to be
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 01:34:40 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @wastelad well, and also a "hey maybe don't have kids genocide a race and lie to them about it"
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     Gin (ginnig@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 18-Feb-2024 02:51:41 JST Gin

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     @PunishedD @sickburnbro which is why we all LOVE IT
     
     Even people who would applaud your baby being shot in the face love this movie
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     Miyagiyoda (miyagiyoda@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 06:27:38 JST Miyagiyoda

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     @sickburnbro Have you ever wondered why people are scared of spiders, specifically their weird movement? Those beady eyes? That sparse hair? Mandibles? Deep down we know things that move and look like that are bad news.
     An alien/demon who shows up moving or looking like a spider is toast. Its primal. We remember why genetically.

     Trust your gut, apologize later if wrong.

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