HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
"If you wish to prevent this you have to ensure that none of the people that follow you also doesn't follow someone on a service you don't like."
I would not even know how to go about this. In fact, I am not opposed to my content going to any real #Fediverse platform, i.e. that are not-for-profit/corporate.
My issue are #BigTech platforms because of the agenda they have (see earlier #intro for a brief summary.)
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shiri
Thing is that only the opposite is possible. Because standards are open anybody can join. When this bridge goes live, you might be followed by Friendica instances over the bridge because the AT Protocol is a true fediverse even if it was designed by a corporate entity and it's first server was a corporate server.
But once that goes live, they also have absolutely no control over it after that. They won't have control or access to your posts between two AT instances unless one of those is the original Bluesky itself.
And because protocols are open, there's nothing that can be done about that... without again limiting reach. Your only option to broadly exclude certain entities from the fediverse is to put the entire fediverse under a central control... but then you're at the whims of whomever controls it and we're back at the same problem as before with Twitter, Facebook, and the like...
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
Thanks for going to such great length in explaining all this to a non-techie. :)
I have some questions, though:
"When this bridge goes live, you might be followed by #Friendica instances over the bridge."
My understanding was, that all present platforms of the #Fediverse you the AcitivityPub protocoll and can thus federate and I know I do have followers from, say, Friendica instances. So, why the bridge for them?
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
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"Your only option to broadly exclude certain entities from the fediverse is to put the entire fediverse under a central control... but then you're at the whims of whomever controls it and we're back at the same problem as before with Twitter, Facebook, and the like..."
Exactly, A no-go.
No, it must be exactly the opposite.
The internet was designed to withstand an attack from outside, so that...
HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
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...not the whole system might be destroyed.
As explained, our governments' agencies and military are engaged in a #HybridWar, including #CyberWarfare, so strategically speaking, the original concept of #decentralization must be maintained.
(If I remember correctly, the former #Mossad chief recently said that there was a 365/24 #CyberWarfare.)
shiri
Because if the user is primarily associating with the Bluesky community (ie. someone who left Bluesky for Friendica) that may be the first place they find you. They may also not be tech savvy enough (or just not care) to realize it's an AP account they can bypass the bridge to reach.
It was also to highlight that the moment Bluesky starts federating... they stop being the only ones on that protocol, many many Friendica instances are ready to immediately federate with Bluesky as soon as that happens.
Once the plugin updates, I know I'm one of them. There's a number of people who chose Bluesky over anything else that I'd look up and add to my follow list.
After that, some time later there will be AT only servers cropping up, basically AT's equivalent of Mastodon will appear. It'll eventually likely turn into it's own ecosystem with some people preferring one over the other for this or that feature (like some people may prefer the fact that AT has a proper verified user system as opposed to AP... which just has a weak hacked version)
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴
Oh, my bad, it's late. I confused the "AP" and the "AT" protocoll. All clear now. AT is #BlueSky's new one. AP = ActivityPub = current #Fediverse standard.
So, but I might read this tomorow, if you chose to reply, how do we prevent this from happening to the #fediverse ?
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