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   danjac (danjac@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:34:37 JST danjac

   It would be kind of darkly funny if Trump's re-election ends up reversing Brexit and creating that pan-European army the loons were frothing about

   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/15/uk-europe-nuclear-shield-donald-trump-germany-nato-deterrent

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     danjac (danjac@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:34:36 JST danjac

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     For the UK, the strategic calculus hasn't changed since Harold Macmillan: without an empire, you are a mid-ranking power that has to choose between Europe - where you are among equals - or America, where you are a supplicant. And if America doesn't care about you any more, that decision kind of makes itself

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     Hen Gymro Heb Wlad (hengymrohebwlad@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:34:43 JST Hen Gymro Heb Wlad

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     @danjac As long as the UK has FPTP and the Daily Mail, Europeans should be wary of basing long term strategic decisions on the UK's commitment to Europe, democracy or indeed rationality.

     UK may not be as bad as Hungary (which frankly needs to be fenced out of the EU and NATO), but it is definitely systemically vulnerable to Trump-style populism.

     After all, the current insane iteration of the Tories can still rely on 25-30% of the vote, and plenty of Leavers still think Brexit was a good idea.

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