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   Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:12:52 JST Tim Bray

   • Jeff Atwood

   @codinghorror So stop using it, switch to phanpy.social or elk.zone. They are amazingly better. I think the Mastodon team should focus their UX work in moderation and administration, the dev community has already shown they can effectively take leadership on everyday clients.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:12:49 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael You know that within the fediverse, servers and clients are separated and that a authentication specification is used which can be used within other software and that also alternative web clients do exist?
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:12:51 JST Raphael Lullis

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     • Jeff Atwood

     @timbray @codinghorror

     Not just that, to improve the ActivityPub ecosystem as a whole we need to separate servers and clients.

     It might have been a good idea when Mastodon just needed to be an alternative to Twitter, but now we can aim higher.

     We shouldn't need one account for twitter-style feeds, another for reddit-style forums, another for flickr-style photo sharing and another github-style code work. We can have one single account for everything, and just change the clients.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:27:40 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael :blobcatshrug: I don't have the urge to use Mastodon or Lemmy...
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:27:42 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @Jain of course. But is there any client out there that can let me have a lemmy-like experience while connected from my mastodon account, or vice-versa?

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 07:59:58 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael what do you want? there are softwares / clients which shows posts in a tree style view or image board style view. Maybe you would enjoy Mastodon more if you use the Tusky App?
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:00:00 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @Jain replace "mastodon" with "microblogging" and "lemmy" with "discussion forum". Does it help?

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:17:57 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael @Jain that would require server support.
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:18:24 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael Looks like you answered your question already... but just for your information:
     As far as i am aware of does Lemmy implement certain stuff according to the specs but not everything and a big bunch of it is custom. So basically one can say that even tho they use some kind of ActivityPub, its not compatible with the rest of the network.
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:18:26 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @Jain I am aware of Tusky - using it right now.

     Can I use my Mastodon account to browse a Lemmy community, see the list of posts, open a post, vote up/down the comments?

     AFAIK, I can't. There is no unified client that can let me do that from the same account. If I want to access something through the Lemmy interface, I need a Lemmy client, which can only interact with Lemmy servers. Same with "Mastodon-compatible" servers and clients.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:21:35 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael i wont, but just to mention, the fediverse lemmy situation is much more comparable to what matrix is to the fediverse... both do federate
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:21:36 JST Raphael Lullis

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     @Jain and before you say "kbin does that", my point is exactly that I shouldn't need different accounts to interact with different services.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:26:55 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Raphael Lullis
     @raphael @Jain servers that support both microblogging and reddit-style forums would be doable I suppose.
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     Raphael Lullis (raphael@mastodon.communick.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 08:26:56 JST Raphael Lullis

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     • Sexy Moon
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     @Moon @Jain of course, but like I said in the beginning, I believe that one of the best ways to speed up the process of "improving server support" would be to ditch the clients and their application-specific APIs.

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