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    Christopher Trottier (atomicpoet@firefish.city)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 18:29:17 JST Christopher Trottier Christopher Trottier

    So let me be more clear about this. I'm all for defederating the Bluesky bridge -- if that's what you want to do.

    However, I'm seeing a lot of people say, "Every server that uses ActivityPub must defederate from Bluesky because this is a safe space for marginalized people."

    But if that's true, why have so many marginalized people come to an ActivityPub-enabled server, and ended up leaving because they felt this wasn't a space for them?

    Specifically, I saw quite a lot of Black people encounter racism on certain Mastodon servers and then migrate over to Bluesky because Bluesky felt like a safer space for them. Sure, in many ways Bluesky has worse moderation policies than ActivityPub-enabled Fediverse, but they also found Bluesky to be safer for them.

    And we have to ask ourselves: why, on a place that has questionable moderation, do they encounter more safety than here?

    It may be true that the ActivityPub-enabled Fediverse may offer a safe space for some marginalized people, but certainly not for everyone who is marginalized. Frankly, if there's safety here for some people but not others, is it all that safe to begin with?

    RE: https://atomicpoet.org/objects/8a1c053b-b059-476e-9caa-3419f8f314d5

    In conversation about a year ago from firefish.city permalink

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      M. Ní Sídach (muiren@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 18:30:02 JST M. Ní Sídach M. Ní Sídach
      in reply to

      @atomicpoet I found the larger Fediverse deeply anti-Black, with most Queer instances warmly embracing aspirationally white model minorities, while being unwelcome spaces to Black Trans Women and Femmes just like their real life communities.

      The exceptions being when a token is needed or a self-anointed community Black hero wants to project the illusion of our being one big happy rainbow family.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      feb (feb@loma.ml)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 18:30:59 JST feb feb
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      @atomicpoet
      Let me make it clear: the "Bridgy Fed" project is dead for me as of today. It has been burnt. It is simply unacceptable for personal data to be shared in this way. Even if it is possible.

      Let's slowly dispel the myth that the Fediverse was developed by marginalised groups. That's rubbish. There are plenty of other reasons why people don't want to have anything to do with data-driven services.

      I am extremely angry. indieweb.social/users/snarfed

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar's status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 18:36:04 JST crossgolf_rebel crossgolf_rebel
      in reply to

      @atomicpoet@firefish.city I don't think it was just "the place of safety" that drove people to BS.
      There are many more reasons, for one thing that many people were looking for a quick alternative to Twitter, but didn't consider Fediverse as a different network and that many things work differently here. Most people just wanted a 1:1 replacement, which they found much easier with BS.

      Many marginalised communities isolated themselves on their Fediverse instances and locked themselves away when the Musk wave came crashing in, because Twitter behaviour also took hold on a massive scale.
      These groups are still there, we just notice them a lot less

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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