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   Pablo M.U. :vericol: (derpoltergeist@col.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 10:56:58 JST Pablo M.U. :vericol:

   • Mike Masnick ✅

   Those algorithm and moderation features on Bluesky that @mmasnick mentions here sound really dope. In particular I like the idea of being able to switch from friend to news-heavy algos, and the fact-checking subscriptions. I don't feel like opening an account there, but I wonder if similar ideas could be implemented on #Mastodon. https://www.techdirt.com/2024/02/06/bluesky-opens-up/

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     PewPewMiau (pewpewmiau@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:24:07 JST PewPewMiau

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     • Mike Masnick ✅

     @derpoltergeist @mmasnick the next step of mastodom should be open source algos. Like a market place where ppl can share them and you can decide. I think that would be really amazing.

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     Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:24:07 JST Mike Masnick ✅

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     • PewPewMiau

     @PewPewMiau @derpoltergeist i agree that would be huge for mastodon, so I hope it comes to that. Though, a year ago people on here were harassing anyone who wanted algorithms until they left the fediverse entirely.

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     Unpartitioned Variance 50% off (guyjantic@c.im)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:26:19 JST Unpartitioned Variance 50% off

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     • Mike Masnick ✅
     • Alessandro

     @xylya @derpoltergeist @mmasnick The parts I don't enjoy include their heavy use of algorithm-based feeds and (probably) collecting and monetizing user data, the latter probably through targeted advertising at minimum (last year the buzz was that ads were inevitable; I haven't seen recent info, though). I've been reading that their infrastructure requires a bunch of expensive centralized(ish) services, and they're a for-profit corporation, so they need the revenue to survive. The company will almost certainly be shaped by pressure to continue financial growth no matter what. The company charter is not available to the public, and... Bluesky is Jack Dorsey's baby.

     Yes, what Moosk did to twitter after Dorsey left is pretty horrific, but actions don't go from negative to positive just because of contrast. Many of us watched for years as Dorsey bent rules to keep misogynist, anti-LGBTQ, racist, and anti-democratic activists, politicians, pundits, etc. active on twitter (if they were rich or popular enough), only deplatforming the worst of them when their relevance--and probably their profit-generating ability--faded. I've not yet seen any commitment from Dorsey to do anything different with Bluesky.

     Corrections to my probable misunderstanding of some of the statements above are welcome. I'm not a tech or business expert.

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     Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:26:19 JST Mike Masnick ✅

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     • Alessandro

     @guyjantic @xylya @derpoltergeist almost everything you wrote about what you think Bluesky is doing is... wrong? Like blatantly false.

     The algorithms are written by anyone (not Bluesky) and it's setup so that they're not collecting or "monetizing" data.

     Jack Dorsey is not running it, disagrees with the direction of it and shut down his account. it's not "his baby."

     Please, don't just spew misinfo based on vibes.

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     Alessandro (xylya@mastodon.uno)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:26:22 JST Alessandro

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     • Mike Masnick ✅
     • Unpartitioned Variance 50% off

     @guyjantic @derpoltergeist @mmasnick what is their business model?

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     Unpartitioned Variance 50% off (guyjantic@c.im)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:26:23 JST Unpartitioned Variance 50% off

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     • Mike Masnick ✅

     @derpoltergeist @mmasnick I also approve of taking their good ideas but not their business model or their philosophy. In fact, right now I'm in favor of defederating from bluesky entirely.