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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 06:09:54 JST Evan Prodromou

   I wonder if they told those hostages and their families that they killed 67 unrelated civilians as a diversion for their rescue. That is a hard calculus to live with.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:37:57 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Bernie the Wordsmith

     @berniethewordsmith

     https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-airstrikes-kill-dozens-of-palestinians-in-rafah-as-military-rescues-2-hostages

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     Bernie the Wordsmith (berniethewordsmith@masto.es)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:37:58 JST Bernie the Wordsmith

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     @evan Wait, what.

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     B. D. Sint (bdsint@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:42:37 JST B. D. Sint

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     • Bernie the Wordsmith

     @berniethewordsmith @evan

     First, I suggest that you don't believe Hamas about the numbers of casualties and certainly not about whether they were all civilians.

     Second, Palestinian terrorists took these Israeli hostages from Israel into Gaza and into a civilian neighborhood in Rafah. Israel didn't choose where this, or any other battle will be. That was the choice of the terrorists.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:42:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Bernie the Wordsmith

     @bdsint @berniethewordsmith there was a negotiated ceasefire on the table that Netanyahu declined. That was the other option for getting these hostages freed. The Netanyahu government very much has chosen high Palestinian casualties over a negotiated settlement.

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     David August (davidaugust@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 11:33:06 JST David August

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     @evan @bdsint @berniethewordsmith Evan, Hamas declined a negotiated ceasefire days before that.

     You can have whatever views you want, but please, bring your ability to report facts and what’s actually happened to bear on this just as you typically have in the past on your posts.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 11:33:06 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Bernie the Wordsmith

     @davidaugust @bdsint @berniethewordsmith thanks for the confidence and I appreciate the correction.