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    Daniel Lowd (lowd@sigmoid.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:46:26 JST Daniel Lowd Daniel Lowd

    I just had to email my 16-year-old's teacher to explain that he did not use AI for an assignment. (I watched him complete it!)

    I also included multiple references for why no one should be using AI detectors in education.

    TurnItIn is making $$$$ by lying to schools.

    In conversation Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:46:26 JST from sigmoid.social permalink
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      Rob Ricci (ricci@discuss.systems)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:47:14 JST Rob Ricci Rob Ricci
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      @lowd The grifts go even deeper. I was talking to a colleague recently whose college-age son (and all his friends) had been paying some service $30/month to re-write their assignments so that they supposedly wouldn't get caught by "AI detectors"

      In conversation Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:47:14 JST permalink
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      Daniel Lowd (lowd@sigmoid.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:48:02 JST Daniel Lowd Daniel Lowd
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      • Ryan Makes, Dreamscaper

      @ryancoordinator Unfortunately, the immediate lessons are:
      1. My teacher doesn’t trust me
      2. I live in a world where things like this happen
      3. I should make my writing look weirder and less polished so I don’t get accused again.

      This mirrors problems many students have faced for years - being accused of cheating because they were stereotyped as not being smart enough to do good work. We are very fortunate/privileged and this whole incident should not have a big impact on my kid.

      In conversation Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:48:02 JST permalink
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      Ryan Makes, Dreamscaper (ryancoordinator@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:48:03 JST Ryan Makes, Dreamscaper Ryan Makes, Dreamscaper
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      @lowd one layer deeper: what are the structural lessons for the student here?

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:48:59 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Ryan Makes, Dreamscaper

      @lowd @ryancoordinator Lesson 3 unfortunately has real world value now. When I find stuff in search results with the kind of "polished" look matching writing structures taught in schools, I assume it's content farm drivel (LLM or not) and immediately click back. Obvious ESL or ND writing for now is best efficient indicator I've found for authenticity.

      In conversation Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 06:48:59 JST permalink
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