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   :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 21:41:50 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

   My first thought on reading the title is an "I disagree". But the more I read on #objective #journalism after this article, it does indeed look like that the endless, never-reaching goal of "objectivity" is very soulless and just not happy to work on. Maybe that could be one of the reasons why my older brother gave up his job at #Reuters... :satsuki_sadge:
   
   I still think that we need some news articles that are written with the aim to be "objective", as a "view from nowhere" is still a view from somewhere, IMO. It's interesting to see how some overly detached person would look at it, and especially what are the blind spots that would be often missed in ("objective") reporting.
   
   I can't believe I'm saying this, but perhaps this one of the few things that #ArtificialIntelligence can replace jobs on that would be beneficial overall? :sagume_think: Nobody seems to really like writing "objective" news, and though I have no illusions of #AI being somehow more neutral or less biased than human "objective journalists", I do believe it can write how an "objective journalist" usually would. Most of the replaced can work more on subjective journalism which they can burnout less on, and news agencies can widen the scope of the daily events they report on because human labor is now less of a bottleneck. :economist_kasen:
   
   I don't think this application can be done right now but it's something worth looking to in the future! :cirno_thumbs_up:
   
   RE: https://tweesecake.social/users/weirdwriter/statuses/111821956136002697

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 21:41:49 JST Sexy Moon

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     @mima journalism stopped doing "objective journalism" years ago, this is just liberals pantomiming old won battles so they still feel like an underdog since only underdogs are moral and righteous
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 21:51:41 JST Sexy Moon

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     @mima they're not, they stopped doing "both sides" journalism a long time ago and now they're all-in on "fact checking". Huge difference from the 90s.
     
     could be about southeast asia, I regret taking an america-centric viewpoint in my reply.
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 21:51:42 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon@shitposter.club Idk about #journalism specific to Western countries, but "objective journalism" is still pretty alive here in the #Philippines and maybe other countries in #SoutheastAsia IMO.
     
     This one I think for example is written in a pretty disconnected manner: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/01/26/2328747/mtrcb-junks-smnis-plea-lift-suspension-two-programs
     
     And then of course there's international agencies like #Reuters and #AFP which seem to still be "objective" in their reporting.

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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 22:01:36 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     @Moon@shitposter.club Ahh, about fact-checking, we're not complete strangers to it.. #Rappler (which you can pretty much consider as our country's CNN except it's smaller and doesn't have a TV station) is most notorious for doing it regularly, to the irritation of Duterte and Marcos supporters. And IIRC I did hear some liberals and leftists kinda complaining about them fact-checking some relatively less important things.
     
     Philstar which I linked earlier also did some fact-checks, though the last one they did was on September last year. Not sure why they seemingly stopped. :sagume_think:

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 22:03:38 JST Sexy Moon

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     @mima I admit complete ignorance of Asian journalistic practices.
     
     I have friends with family in Philippines, I should ask them about it.
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     anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 22:25:41 JST anonymous

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon @mima I view many different news outlets and they do “both sides” but it’s very much lopsided on the side of the current narrative.

     In essence, other major “news” in other countries is just treading in the 90s America-style “journalism”. It’s attempting to appear credible while surreptitiously and aggressively pushing a narrative.

     If anyone has an example that would prove me wrong, I would truly like to see it.

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