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   Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 05:58:53 JST Moffin'tosh

   The contraddictions between the quasi-socialist #FOSS mode of production and private corporations are intensifiying😁

   What Comes After Open Source Software?
   https://youtu.be/ieFXnvsn3-g #linux #programming

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 05:58:52 JST iced depresso

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     @moffintosh the clowns want to infiltrate it to push identity politics, the corpos want to subvert it to sell merch :neocat_gun:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:01:57 JST iced depresso

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     @moffintosh FOSS gets assailed by a lot of special interests.
     
     also there were already experiments with the Prosperity license and such to make a 'corporate GPL'. OSI didn't like them because Reasons(tm.)
     
     i'm still currently a fan of OSL3 but i'll have to do more reading to be sure. it's like AGPL with less obtuse wording. (they also don't mention linkers because the lawyers reviewing it said it causes a lot of issues in court.)
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:06:17 JST iced depresso

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     @moffintosh the corpos just want the free labor. rich gold called it "colonizing the commons" and i've seen that come up a time or two.
     
     ex. the svalboard picks up from the lalboard, closes the licenses, and then sells it as a product. (in this case its one guy who basically 'finished' the now-abandoned design and sells kits/prints, but big businesses want to do it with everything.)
     
     i used to comment that linux is "like africa" where they just want to plunder the resources and anybody who gets too useful gets acquihired out of the ecosystem
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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:06:19 JST Moffin'tosh

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     @icedquinn I wouldn't call that "selling merch"

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:17:42 JST Sexy Moon

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     @icedquinn @moffintosh I watched the video, the Perens suggestion seems fraught with peril but doesn't seem to be the same thing as the people trying to infiltrate open source, other than giving them oxygen
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:21:42 JST Sexy Moon

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     • iced depresso
     @icedquinn @moffintosh it didn't seem quasi-socialist to me as much as perens basically just saying they're getting around the sharing clause and taking stuff for free. money can still exchange hands just abide by the spirit of the license, right?
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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:24:43 JST Moffin'tosh

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     • iced depresso

     @Moon @icedquinn Perhaps my non-native engkish betrayed me

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:24:43 JST Sexy Moon

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     @moffintosh @icedquinn I very well just misinterpreted you by my own fault. sorry.
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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:24:44 JST Moffin'tosh

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     @Moon @icedquinn Oh- I was not calling his proposal socialist!😅

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:26:14 JST iced depresso

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     @Moon @moffintosh well companies did a lot of FUD and propagandizing over the GPL up until big tech became a thing. when they found ways to cheat the license they suddenly had no further issues with GPL. then when the AGPL came around Google outright banned it from Google Code in a not at all subtle jab that you were not to *genuinely* inconvenience a corpo from colonizing the commons.
     
     Just like now you see a lot of heat thrown at the AGPL because they can't colonize it.
     
     i hate sociopathy i'm so tired
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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:26:36 JST Moffin'tosh

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     @Moon @icedquinn I was fingering at the mode of production of FOSS at large, where the software is functionally collectively owned by the whole community of programmers, as it is publicly available, is mostly produced not for profit, but for need and by distributed community of developers

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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:29:33 JST Moffin'tosh

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     @icedquinn @Moon Primitive accumulation of software!
     It's the enclosures all over again, with common property being appropiated by the capitalists to extract profit from it.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:31:03 JST iced depresso

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     @moffintosh @Moon latest book of the month was talking about enclosures in britain.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:31:51 JST Sexy Moon

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     @moffintosh @icedquinn It's not perfectly analogous to enclosure because you can still get almost all the software from the original projects. but they are definitely locking up something, I just don't know how to model it.
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     Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:32:10 JST Moffin'tosh

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     @icedquinn @Moon "Book of the month"?

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 06:32:10 JST iced depresso

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     @moffintosh @Moon i've read 100% of one book and 30% of two other books this month :blobcatlaydown: