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   Martin Rundkvist (mrundkvist@archaeo.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:45 JST Martin Rundkvist

   #Capitalism was a historically contingent abstract game back when it involved the manipulation of coins with an actual value in precious metals. Today it mostly doesn't involve any kind of physical money at all. A US dollar is no more real than a DogeCoin or an NFT monkey picture. And the rules of the game are no more natural laws now than they were in AD 1400. 1/2

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     Martin Rundkvist (mrundkvist@archaeo.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:42 JST Martin Rundkvist

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     We have founded the well-being of our societies on emergent behaviours of an extremely large number of people playing Settlers of Catan with our #labour and the planet's resources. 2/2

     #capitalism #boardgames

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     Martin Rundkvist (mrundkvist@archaeo.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:49 JST Martin Rundkvist

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     @DavidH It would be easier for me to be a Leftie if I trusted the intelligence and basic decency of at least one of a) the Revolution, b) the voters.

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     David Haskiya (davidh@glammr.us)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:50 JST David Haskiya

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     @mrundkvist Don't worry. The classles, communist society will emerge from Capitalism any day now. It's a dialectic inevitability. Almost lika a natural law really!

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     Seiðr (illuminatus@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:54 JST Seiðr

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     @mrundkvist That's why when "some guy™" tells you that bartering is "the original form of economy" you can know they are bullshitters with no fucking idea about anything: barter economy is when the societal entities that guarantee the debt implicit in money will be recognised and respected are failing/have failed. Is money necessary for a functioning economy? It is inevitable. Is that the same as Capitalism? No, because Capitalism is an extractive form of accumulation of labour by "some guys™".

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     Seiðr (illuminatus@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:55 JST Seiðr

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     @mrundkvist Money is, and always has been (insert astronaut with a gun here), a way to "measure" taxes and, hence, labour. I understood it better when I read about how the first instances of money were account entries in Mesopotamian temples registering taxes in the form of grain, cattle, etc. Currency, the physical expression of money, came later to be able to transport and exchange labor as debt from a place to another.

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     Martin Rundkvist (mrundkvist@archaeo.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:44:57 JST Martin Rundkvist

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     @Illuminatus Historians and archaeologists happily speak about functioning economies several thousand years before money was invented.

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     Seiðr (illuminatus@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2024 21:45:00 JST Seiðr

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     @mrundkvist It depends on the scale of the economy and its complexity, but I would gather at certain point you need quantification, and you can call that one way or another, but it's essentially money.

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