Conversation

One thing Ive seen here over and over again is the conflation of socialism with public funding. These two are NOT the same. A welfare state is NOT socialist. Socialism is about the collective ownership and democratic control of the means of production, such as factories, offices, and resources. It aims at managing these assets in the interest of all members of society, not just those who own them, regardless if its the state or who ever.

Public Funding/ Welfare State was invented by German Chancellor Bismarck to tame the people to reduce the attractiveness of socialist and revolutionary ideas. Same thoughts I have at how many so called 'leftists' in USA would abandon the cause if their government gives them healthcare.

Public Funding Is NOT socialism.

Read your theories, lefties. Don't just blabber. Read books, or listen to audio books, converse with other lefties and not mainstream press.