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    Daniel Bellingradt (dbellingradt@historians.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:45:59 JST Daniel Bellingradt Daniel Bellingradt

    Oops. Someone cut out the coat of arms of Cardinal Johannes de Turrecremata.

    The Cardinal lived from 1388–1468 AD, and was, among other things, the owner of a manuscript library. And parts of this library found its way eventually into the Vatican. And here, someone disagreed with Johannes de Turrecremata, and neatly cut out his coat of arms making it a cardinal's coat of arms devastation. A recognizable hole in the page was a message: you are erased from history, a gap.
    #bookhistory #histodons

    In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:45:59 JST from historians.social permalink

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    1. https://media.historians.social/media_attachments/files/111/719/742/303/208/586/original/bb1f785e8de9ec91.png

    2. https://media.historians.social/media_attachments/files/111/719/747/912/749/069/original/fc733541b4c656e9.jpg
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      Daniel Bellingradt (dbellingradt@historians.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:46:47 JST Daniel Bellingradt Daniel Bellingradt
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      • Tommi Nieminen

      @tomminieminen more likely a scrapbook of unwanted images. A #censorship collection.

      In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:46:47 JST permalink
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      Tommi Nieminen (tomminieminen@mastodontti.fi)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:46:49 JST Tommi Nieminen Tommi Nieminen
      in reply to

      @dbellingradt Or maybe it was needed somewhere? Say a scrapbook of arms?

      In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:46:49 JST permalink
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      kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:49:00 JST kaia kaia
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      @dbellingradt
      unrelated question, but the Vatican library has its watermark on this photography. what rights can the Vatican reserve seeing this is not transformative and it's a historic book?
      In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:49:00 JST permalink
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      Daniel Bellingradt (dbellingradt@historians.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:57:39 JST Daniel Bellingradt Daniel Bellingradt
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      • kaia

      @kaia they own the book, and the rights of the scan.

      In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 21:57:39 JST permalink
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 22:30:14 JST lainy lainy
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      • kaia
      @kaia @dbellingradt there’s even worse cases with „database rights“ where you can suddenly receive copyright for public domain data just because you collect it in a db
      In conversation Monday, 08-Jan-2024 22:30:14 JST permalink
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