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   Simon Willison (simon@fedi.simonwillison.net)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 14:29:25 JST Simon Willison

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   @carlana @glyph I love that idea that layman have more confidence over the definition than practitioners do!

   • esmevane, sorry repeated this.
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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 14:29:24 JST Glyph

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     @simon @carlana this strikes closer to the heart of my objection. A lot of insiders—not practitioners as such, but marketers & executives—use "AI" as the label not in spite of its confusion with the layperson's definition, but *because* of it. Investors who vaguely associate it with machine-god hegemony assume that it will be very profitable. Users assume it will solve their problems. It's a term whose primary purpose has become deceptive.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 17:04:26 JST Rich Felker

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     @glyph @simon @carlana "Has become"? I think that deceptiveness has always been core to "AI", going back to the 80s or 70s. Overselling what they were doing to get funding.

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     nen (nen@mementomori.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 15:51:15 JST nen

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     @simon @glyph @carlana I think it's those battles that can't be won, but will be lost even more badly if we stop fighting altogether.

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     Simon Willison (simon@fedi.simonwillison.net)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 15:51:16 JST Simon Willison

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     • Glyph

     @glyph @carlana thats exactly it - I've been half-heartedly fighting the LLM hairsplitting fight for most of the last year and I got tired of it - it didn't feel like it was gaining anything meaningful

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 15:51:17 JST Glyph

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     @simon @carlana At the same time, a lot of the deception is unintentional. When you exist in a sector of the industry that the public knows as "AI", that the media calls "AI", that industry publications refer to as "AI", that *other* products identify as "AI", going out on a limb and trying to build a brand identity around pedantic hairsplitting around "LLMs" and "machine learning" is a massive uphill battle which you are disincentivized at every possible turn to avoid.