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   Tim Erickson, @stpaultim (stpaultim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 08:49:18 JST Tim Erickson, @stpaultim

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   • Eugen Rochko
   • Johannes Ernst
   • Mike McCue

   @J12t @Gargron @mike

   It was a good discussion. I think the point about XMPP not having a popular base supporting it, like the Fediverse, also seems very relevent.

   It seems that there may be a much larger base of platforms and users that are invested in the long term success of Activity Pub than there ever was in XMPP - as I understand it.

   https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/eugen-rochko

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     Johannes Ernst (j12t@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 08:49:22 JST Johannes Ernst

     • Eugen Rochko
     • Mike McCue

     Discussing Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish, @Gargron on @mike's podcast uses #XMPP as a historical analogy of how things can go wrong. He points out that XMPP had some self-inflicted problems, eg that the standard did not support new, desirable features quickly enough, like stickers in chat.

     I hope we won't get the same problem in the #fediverse. #ActivityPub was created in 2018 and there is currently no W3C standards activity.

     Maybe Mastodon could come back to W3C and help re-energize?

     Tim Chambers repeated this.