I have to be honest: I have received more abuse here than I ever did on Twitter, and it’s getting increasingly common, which goes to prove what I said a few years ago: it’s not the platform, it’s the people.
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:39:06 JST josemanuel - kaia likes this.
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kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:39:35 JST kaia @josemanuel abuse from which side if I may ask? blocking the offenders or their instance did not help? -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:41:31 JST Lina Inver?e @josemanuel it's also the platform because unlike on twitter here i can call you a nigger piece of faggot kike shit and your best course of action would be to ignore me, you can't report me, and blocking me would be a public L because most instances have blockbots that display when you get blocked by someone
the less jannies you have on the platform, the more you can call people niggerfaggots without consequences -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:44:45 JST Lina Inver?e @FrailLeaf @josemanuel yea his admin is surprisingly fair for someone who cries while masturbating and fists women, he didn't defederate eientei or suspend my account on qoto's end despite blocking me on his own account -
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FrailLeaf (frailleaf@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:44:46 JST FrailLeaf @lina @josemanuel another case of guy can't imagine being outside his echochamber and unable to cope with the fact that you are not deleted from website Lina Inver?e likes this. -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:45:52 JST Lina Inver?e @FrailLeaf @josemanuel the hilarious part is: he's more fair than the alleged champion of free speech daniel stevens of ontario, canada -
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FrailLeaf (frailleaf@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:45:54 JST FrailLeaf @lina @josemanuel funny admin Lina Inver?e likes this. -
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:46:19 JST josemanuel @kaia They usually block me first. It’s usually the kind of people who, when faced with polite disagreement, reply with an insult, then block and subtoot.
In the rare cases when they don’t block me, I usually mute them (with or without mentions, depending on how annoying they are).
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FrailLeaf (frailleaf@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:48:24 JST FrailLeaf @lina @josemanuel its the clout disease, get excessively vocal about your "cause" only to try to gain following to make money Lina Inver?e likes this. -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:50:53 JST Lina Inver?e @FrailLeaf @josemanuel yea, but you have to admit, with how fake the most vocal poast users are, it's only fitting the admin is the biggest grifter and fake faggot on the instance -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:58:13 JST Lina Inver?e @FrailLeaf @josemanuel yeah i had numerous times they'd be like "durrr i dont wanna shit in my house" like retard poast isn't your house, you can be kicked out for posting :danielstevens: or anything like that
it'd be your house if you were hosting it -
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FrailLeaf (frailleaf@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:58:14 JST FrailLeaf @lina @josemanuel what's more pathetic is his users willfully ignoring how much of a grifter he is. They're literally his slaves -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:03:23 JST Lina Inver?e @josemanuel i really mean the entire network as a whole, because unless your admin is rapidfire blocking every new instance that breaks your rules, you WILL see someone say nigger and you WILL have someone try to troll you or try to get a rise out of you some other way, there's no escaping it without unironically enforcing whitelist federation or following ever-so-updating blocklists that honestly defeat the purpose of federation
as for the goals, well, i don't think fedi has any goals here, it's just a crazy network full of crazies, it's not a corporate project to make money, as far as i'm aware -
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:03:24 JST josemanuel @lina When I say the platform, I don’t mean the moderation policy. Depending on the instance you’re in, you may or may not say that.
What I mean by “the platform” is the platform’s goals. When people moved from Twitter in 2022, they came here saying how awful it was that the platform gave prominence and visibility to certain accounts because confrontation was good for it.
I called that bullshit because 1) if something made me angry or depressed, I wouldn’t be interacting with it, and that lack of interaction is bad for business. And 2) most platforms allow one to curate their experience, Twitter included. If you see stuff that makes you angry and you feel the need to respond and escalate, that’s on you.
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:06:13 JST Lina Inver?e @mischievoustomato @josemanuel yea you can, but i try not to let people know about that it's funny when people demonstratively block you -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:06:14 JST Johnny Peligro you can mute, which is a pseudoblock and isnt detectable -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:08:23 JST Lina Inver?e @josemanuel depends on what kind of dickhead
the ones on twitter are just autonomous drones that think their life means something when they go out and harass anyone who goes against the widely accepted agenda
people here just do it for lulz and as a form of gatekeeping, if you can handle it gracefully, you'll make friends even -
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 23:08:24 JST josemanuel as for the goals, well, i don’t think fedi has any goals here, it’s just a crazy network full of crazies
That’s my point: there’s no algorithm psyopping them to be dickheads. They just are.
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:04:13 JST Lina Inver?e @josemanuel a block is basically a declaration of submission, so don't bother with em -
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:04:14 JST josemanuel @lina I can handle it just fine. It’s them who block me.
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:13:32 JST Lina Inver?e @josemanuel let's be honest any platform like fedi would be better than twitter or an equivalent corporate owned platform solely because it's not corporate owned and if you can't find a good instance, you can host your own
but i always found it hilarious that the twitter refugees are like "MASTODON IS BETTER CUZ THERES NO NAZIS" and then they cope with "ACKSHUALLY THE NAZIS FOLLOWED US HERE FROM TWITTER!!" like my brother in Christ you literally came to said nazis because most of them were banned from twitter and are unhappy with how forbidding it is to them -
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josemanuel@qoto.org's status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:13:33 JST josemanuel @lina I wasn’t really bothered. The point of my OP was to counter the narrative that the Fediverse was a better platform just because. (Remember the “Twitter without the nazis” slogan?) No, a platform is as good as the people who use it, and people on Fedi are not exactly the cream of the crop, me included.