Mickey Mouse (the Steamboat Willie version) is now public domain on the east coast of the US.
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:16:34 JST Mike Masnick ✅ - Evan Prodromou repeated this.
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Wonkish (wonkish@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:19:11 JST Wonkish -
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:24:09 JST Mike Masnick ✅ If you're on the east coast and want to create public domain mickey's, there's an AI for that. https://huggingface.co/Pclanglais/Mickey-1928
If you're out west, well, live dangerously...
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your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦 (blogdiva@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:24:32 JST your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦 https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/111678998284324404
enjoy!
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:26:15 JST Mike Masnick ✅ I mean, come on. This is amazing.
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Andy (andyb@techhub.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:37:47 JST Andy In conversation permalink Attachments
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:37:47 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @andyb a friend sent me this as well:
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Wonkish (wonkish@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:39:20 JST Wonkish @mmasnick Aaand I’ve already seen someone on Bluesky photoshop him into holding a dildo (ahh the visual pun..).
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:40:48 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @eikenberry well, i've been arguing that training a model does not implicate any copyright rights, so I will stand by that and say no. But, others might disagree. Courts will let us know...
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eik (eikenberry@a2mi.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:40:50 JST eik @mmasnick layman legal hypothetical; if this model were trained on data that was SET to be public domain, but wasn't at the time of the model being created, but the model wasn't released until the sources were public domain.... Is it copyright infringement?
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John Panzer (jpanzer@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:50:48 JST John Panzer @mmasnick drawing of Mickey, riding a hippocampus, with "Happy 2024" in the background:
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Gur814 (gur814@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:51:06 JST Gur814 In conversation permalink Attachments
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Steffen Christensen (wikisteff@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 14:54:57 JST Steffen Christensen @mmasnick I clicked on the link, but it was VERY slow to render. Tomorrow (later today)...
Happy New Year, Mike! ✌️
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The Curse of La Mikey McFilms (mikeymcfilms@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 15:36:57 JST The Curse of La Mikey McFilms Oh I can’t wait to see what I will do
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Jesse Janowiak (wonkeythemonkey@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 17:18:47 JST Jesse Janowiak @mmasnick Here’s wishing everyone a happy H013!
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 02:04:49 JST Mike Masnick ✅ In conversation permalink -
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Resuna (resuna@ohai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 02:04:50 JST Resuna Ironic that they're using copyrighted text and images without a license for their training data.
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 02:05:45 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @gmcgath no. that was a joke... once the copyright office was in 2024, it was public domain across the country.
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GMcGath (gmcgath@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 02:05:47 JST GMcGath @mmasnick Does copyright expiration really depend on local time? That sounds weird. But if not, when exactly did it expire?
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 12:07:40 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @resuna @andyb fair use does say that scanning to build a useful tool is allowed and not infringing. even for big corporate entities. no one is saying magic words. i can quote you cases if you'd like. but I feel like you don't care about facts, just emotions.
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Resuna (resuna@ohai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 12:07:41 JST Resuna Fair use doesn't mean "I can ignore copyright by saying magic words".
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 12:59:18 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @resuna @andyb Both HathiTrust and the Google Books cases involved scanning of tons of copyright-covered books, and both were found to be fair use, even for Google, a large giant tech company, which used it to build a book search tool.
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Resuna (resuna@ohai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 12:59:21 JST Resuna [Citation required]
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:10:05 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @resuna @andyb i mean, now you're moving the goalposts.
I pointed out that scanning large corpuses of copyright-covered data for commercial reasons has been found to be fair use, and you demanded citations.
I gave you them.
Now you're arguing something different.
It is difficult for me to believe you are engaging in this conversation honestly when you do that.
Furthermore, reducing all generative AI to "parody text and bad image generation" more or less confirms your bad faith.
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Resuna (resuna@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:10:06 JST Resuna Parody text and bad image generation is not the same kind of social good as Google Book search.
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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 02:08:45 JST Mike Masnick ✅ @resuna @andyb I simply pointed out that scanning, even for corporate, for profit reasons, can be fair use.
If you want to go further into the details of why this particular scanning is likely fair use, that's a different discussion. But suffice it to say, it is very likely fair use as well.
The scanning is quite obviously transformative. And if it's not, you'd destroy all sorts of useful data mining initiatives & research, not to mention things like screen readers for the blind.
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Resuna (resuna@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 02:08:46 JST Resuna Don't be silly... in neither of those cases did they just go ahead and say yeah you can do that it's okay. There needed to be a significant social good to allow the scanning as fair use. You are super simplifying these cases to try to argue that basically anything that you want to be allowed is fair use.
It's not clear that spicy autocomplete is even a good at all.
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