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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 22:49:28 JST clacke
   The latest ruling against Giuliani contains the phrase "professional information technology professional". Is the court implying the existence of amateur professionals? What kind of nuances and permutations exist on the amateur to professional spectrum?
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 22:49:28 JST clacke

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     wrong answers only subthread in the replies to this comment 😃
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     sj_zero (sj_zero@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 23:00:33 JST sj_zero

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     After 2001 there's been a thriving market of non-professional information technology professionals. We call them NEETs. Also called "home security enthusiasts"
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 23:24:51 JST clacke

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     • Graydon

     @graydon Oh, my goodness! Just pure facts and definitions of ontology in no uncertain terms within eight minutes!

     This is a prime example of "get an answer to the question you didn't know enough to know you should be asking". And people say making silly has no productive value.

     Thank you, kind fedizen, and thank you fedi for bringing them to me!

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     Graydon (graydon@canada.masto.host)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 23:24:52 JST Graydon

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     @clacke There's professional information technology and consumer information technology and public information technology; your corporate document retention and filing system, someone's laptop with the file manager that comes with the OS, and the US GPO system for finding the official text of laws, for example.

     So the court is describing a person with professional qualifications in a context of professional information technology. They don't know anything about the Library of Congress.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 02:20:42 JST clacke

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     • Graydon
     @graydon Ah, I misread you. I thought you meant this is definitely a terminology that is used by lawyers. 😅
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     Graydon (graydon@canada.masto.host)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 02:20:43 JST Graydon

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     @clacke You're most welcome but I am by no means certain that was what the court meant to do!

     I'd bet it's an editing slip letting a duplicate "professional" through before I bet it was a deliberate distinction.

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     Graydon (graydon@canada.masto.host)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 11:45:36 JST Graydon

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     @clacke It is a terminology and some of the people I have heard use it are lawyers. (One of them was a lawyer AND a librarian.)

     I am still pretty sure that a lawyer who was doing it on purpose wouldn't have done it like that.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 01-Jan-2024 11:45:36 JST clacke

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     • Graydon
     @graydon Cool, so I still actually learned something. =)