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    Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:39:27 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano Hombre Lego Mexicano
    • PeachySummer
    @PeachySummer I never thought of that. Don't people get pissed because you tagged them all out?

    I've often wondered how and why I got tagged out of certain hellthreads. Now I know!
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      Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:39:26 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano Hombre Lego Mexicano
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      @Sui @PeachySummer I know @p has a limit on how many people can be tagged into a hellthread, if I jump in with a single shitpost and don't stay active on the thread, it shouldn't be a surprise when I get tagged out to make room for more active posters.

      It also makes sense to do what peachysummer did here, tag everyone out and start a spinoff thread when CERTAIN PEOPLE *shifty eyes* start to make the thread drift off topic. I'll be doing this in the future, it's actually a polite thing to do.
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      :suihead: (sui@decayable.ink)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:39:27 JST :suihead: :suihead:
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      • PeachySummer
      Sometimes it'll backfire yeah, but it's usually when people start manually untagging people within the same thread that people notice and call it out.
      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:39:27 JST permalink
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:42:39 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @Grandtheftautism @Sui @PeachySummer Yeah, FSE had to eventually (with some reluctance, though it turned out to be for the best) enable the HellthreadMRF, which was originally written to help partially immunize other Pleroma instances from FSE's hellthread. Ours is set higher than most instances, but this actually created a DDoS: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/issues/2765 .
      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 12:42:39 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: git.pleroma.social
        MRF rejection on fetched objects apparently not recorded, causing DDoS (#2765) · Issues · Pleroma / pleroma · GitLab
        Specifically, this can create an accidental DDoS when there is a very long thread with a lot of interactions that is rejected when other servers try to fetch...
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      :suihead: (sui@decayable.ink)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:59:54 JST :suihead: :suihead:
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      • PeachySummer
      I think the default changed to ~10. It seemingly had no limit before, I tagged in 50+ new mastodon users using the introductions hashtag and put on a 1 man hellthread for them lmao.

      Yeah, that's too polite for me. If people want out they can click the mute thread or cry about it, either's fine.
      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:59:54 JST permalink
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      Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:00:10 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano Hombre Lego Mexicano
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      @Sui @p @PeachySummer I remember, it was probably 2018, we had a HUGE hellthread that probably had a hundred people tagged in because the person who started it never trimmed the list. And we were abusing the hellthread, tagging in anybody who complained about hellthreads, generating a lot of complaints from other instances, and generally making people HATE FSE because of this hellthread, including the freemo incident. Finally it got so big that it was breaking things, so p came in and administered one of his characteristic gentle spankings, and so now hellthreads have to be curated by the OP so they don't break stuff. Or at least that's my understanding of it. since I don't understand code, I have to get babby's first explanation of these things or it will just fly right by me.
      Foghorn_Leghorn.jpg
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      :suihead: (sui@decayable.ink)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:00:50 JST :suihead: :suihead:
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      • PeachySummer
      How would you even regulate a thread? I guess you can attempt to steer it, but removing tags only works before it branches off too much. Seems to me that it's basically a free for all after the first post or three, they'll usually either die pretty fast or get hijacked and spin off across 3+ topics.
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:05:06 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @Sui @Grandtheftautism @PeachySummer Really, number of tags compared to tags in the message it replies to would be more reasonable. What actually hoses the server is thread *length* rather than number of tags, but that would mean database hits.
      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:05:06 JST permalink
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      Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:10:44 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano Hombre Lego Mexicano
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      @Sui @p @PeachySummer I've never had a hellthread that was so big or went on for so long it needed to be curated. Drift is not a problem really, but number of tags is, so I guess you check on how many people are actually posting in it about once a week and trim a few tags from the end.
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      MisterRogersSnapped (misterrogerssnapped@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:10:56 JST MisterRogersSnapped MisterRogersSnapped
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      • PeachySummer
      • :suihead:
      @Sui @Grandtheftautism @p @PeachySummer I am glad you touched on the topic of untagging because it is a good reason to hijack this thread and talk about something I find mildly annoying

      BOOM hijacked
      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:10:56 JST permalink
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      In conversation Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 14:12:47 JST permalink

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