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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 19:04:17 JST 翠星石

   • Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans:
   @Amelia I personally don't care about proprietary software like Linux.
   
   I only care about GNU.
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     • Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans:
     @Amelia Nope, as Linux developers themselves only claim that GPLv2-only applies to some parts and other parts
     are under other licenses, despite how the whole lot legally needs to be under GPLv2 compatible terms.
     
     Linux contains quite a few pieces of proprietary software, with only binaries provided (disguised as arrays of data) and no source
     code.
     
     One example is; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/platforms/8xx/micropatch.c but
     there's plenty more.
     
     That's right - it may not be possible to legally distribute the version of Linux from Mr. Torvalds without at least removing the
     proprietary software within.
     
     A few years back there was an attempt to move all of such proprietary software into "linux-firmware", where half the driver is in
     Linux and the other half is in proprietary peripheral software, with both updated in lockstep (despite the massive derivative works
     created), but such move isn't complete.
     
     I personally prefer GNU's version of Linux myself; GNU Linux-libre; https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ which only
     contains free software and which I'm confident is legal to distribute.
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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com did u just call the GPL 2 License propriatary lol?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 19:31:10 JST 翠星石

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     • Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans:
     @Amelia GNU Linux-libre is a GNU package (https://www.gnu.org/software/) and is full of GNU freedom, so it's all GNU, despite being derived from Linux.
     
     Linux-libre is only one of GNU's kernels and Hurd (making GNU/Hurd) is another one, plus there are also a few more kernels, including the one in GNU Grub.
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     Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans: (amelia@transfem.social)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 19:31:11 JST Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans:

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com linux libre is still linux tho? if u want gnu only u would have to use gnu hurd

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 20:08:52 JST 翠星石

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     • cho :ac_sleepy:
     @cho It just works, even on extremely proprietary computers.
     
     You will run into issues with GPU's and Wi-Fi cards that refuse to operate unless proprietary peripheral software is loaded up, but old nvidia and intel GPUs work fine (Linux-libre patches the radeonsi driver to not refuse to operate when the proprietary software is missing, so modesetting usually works with ATI and AMD GPUs, but performance is obviously poor and S3 ACPI suspend may not work), quality 802.11n Wi-Fi cards and all decent 1000BASE-T and 100BASE-TX NIC cards work just fine; https://h-node.org/
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     cho :ac_sleepy: (cho@fedi.layer02.net)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 20:08:53 JST cho :ac_sleepy:

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     • Amelia (Amy) It's sis not cis :verifiedtrans:
     @Suiseiseki @Amelia how's the compatibility with modern computers with that kernel