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   Alex McLean (yaxu@post.lurk.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 19:26:49 JST Alex McLean

   It doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all the same.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 19:26:48 JST pettter

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     @yaxu What are the actual numbers of people on waiting lists? How long did people have to wait? How many actually got care?

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 23:29:42 JST pettter

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     @yaxu And the point I made was that specific metrics can be quite misleading without wider context. You can drop the amount of people on waiting lists easy by just making it hard, expensive, or unpleasant to even get on waiting lists. Or just by not putting them on the lists at all.

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     Alex McLean (yaxu@post.lurk.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 23:29:44 JST Alex McLean

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     @pettter According to the graphs I posted, there are three times the number of people on waiting lists than when Labour last left power. Waiting time depends on what they're waiting for, but e.g. for emergencies the people waiting more than four hours has gone down from close to 100% to close to 50% in that time. The point I'm making is that it matters who you vote for, I don't think it's reasonable to disagree with these figures but feel free to share counterexamples.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 00:12:08 JST pettter

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     @yaxu Oh I'm sure it has. OTOH Streeting has been pretty clear that he intends to do exactly as little as humanly possible about the underinvestment.

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     Alex McLean (yaxu@post.lurk.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 00:12:10 JST Alex McLean

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     @pettter Yes fair points. The original data reporter did supply plenty of context though, making it clear that access to healthcare in the UK has consistently got worse under the tories, due to underinvestment https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1606223922474627073